bickster Posted October 15, 2023 Moderator Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: What does that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 So PiS (the governing party) have the largest vote share but will they be able to win a majority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 minute ago, bickster said: What does that mean? PiS = current government. Need 231 seats to form government. Exit Poll has them at 200. 'Democratic Opposition' consisting of KO, TD and NL have 248 between them and will form a government. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, villan95 said: So PiS (the governing party) have the largest vote share but will they be able to win a majority? Nope. They're 31 seats short based on the poll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, bickster said: What does that mean? My understanding is various not-quite-as-much-a-bunch-of-pricks-as-the-current-lot will probably end up in coalition. Will wait for @StefanAVFC to confirm or deny though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: Nope. They're 31 seats short based on the poll. Will none of the others go into coalition with PiS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, ml1dch said: My understanding is various not-quite-as-much-a-bunch-of-pricks-as-the-current-lot will probably end up in coalition. Will wait for @StefanAVFC to confirm or deny though. KO = Civic Coalition made up of made opposition, and various centre/centre-left parties (think more right wing Lib Dems) Nowa Lewica - Left wing, think New labour -> Greens Trzecia Droga - Coalition of P2050 (centrist party headed by the host of Poland's Got Talent) and PSL (Polish People's Party) - Centre Right They all detest PiS, and are aligned on some key points. Tbh, the big thing now is to undo the damage PiS have done towards democracy and the rule of law Get the public broadcaster to be a normal public broadcaster again, and not a 24/7 North Korea-esque propaganda network and re-reform the courts to unlock EU funds again. Oh and undo the ridiculous damage they did to women's rights. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, villan95 said: Will none of the others go into coalition with PiS? Not a chance. The only ones who could are Konfederacja who 1) won't have the seats and 2) although are aligned socially, couldn't be further away econonically. Edited October 15, 2023 by StefanAVFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 I mean he's not technically wrong, but read the room Mati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 Yeah PiS are **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 Sorry there will be spam: Red = KO Blue = PiS Proper east v west split here Warsaw's state is firmly blue due to outside of Warsaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2023 So it seems you had a Pis poor showing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, sidcow said: So it seems you had a Pis poor showing? Whilst I appreciate the joke, record turnout in the 3rd Republic of Poland They just hated these evil (and I don't use that word lightly) ****. Let's say PiSs off instead Edited October 15, 2023 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Yeah PiS are **** Is this a bit like Republicans and Tories where their main support are likely to die off leaving them stranded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, sidcow said: Is this a bit like Republicans and Tories where their main support are likely to die off leaving them stranded? Yeah sorta. It's a bit more unique though as they're tied to extreme catholicism too, which is dying out as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, sidcow said: So it seems you had a Pis poor showing? They have and they haven't. These sorts of results were predicted for PIS. If anything, with such a big turnout they did better than expected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Mic09 said: They have and they haven't. These sorts of results were predicted for PIS. If anything, with such a big turnout they did better than expected. And I only got it was a joke now. Sorry, it's late. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 3rd exit poll (the late poll) also suggests majority for the opposition. That’s 3 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, StefanAVFC said: 3rd exit poll (the late poll) also suggests majority for the opposition. That’s 3 now. When are the actual vote counts announced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, brommy said: When are the actual vote counts announced? Probably tomorrow for final results but should have a rough idea by the end of today. For reference, after about 20% of the count PiS are anywhere from 6%-9% lower than they were in 2019 which bodes well and puts it directly in line with the Exit Poll(s) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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