Vive_La_Villa

Now we got concrete at the back and a rock in the middle surely we will be more solid!

Has been stealing a living for 4 years, has had about 4 good games in his career with 12 months left on his deal and now wants a big fat pay rise. I actually feel sorry for Sunderland. The guy is a right cock. He kept them up. Deserves a pay rise. Not sure f serious. I'm serious. If I turned up to work 1 month in 4 years but in that month I saved the company millions I'd expect a pay rise.

Has been stealing a living for 4 years, has had about 4 good games in his career with 12 months left on his deal and now wants a big fat pay rise. I actually feel sorry for Sunderland. The guy is a right cock. He kept them up. Deserves a pay rise.

Has been stealing a living for 4 years, has had about 4 good games in his career with 12 months left on his deal and now wants a big fat pay rise. I actually feel sorry for Sunderland. The guy is a right cock. He kept them up.

Didn't know he was a Columbia graduate. Ha. I thought it looked wrong but couldn't work out why. We need more academics in the the team!

About time we signed another Columbian.

Oh him! Yeah I seen this player last season in La Liga. He quite the no nonsense midfield. I kept imagining a fair bald bloke for some reason.

Of course. Don't blame you for thinking we lost considering the season we had.

It's you who needs to understand the reality. You are the occupying army. You live on stolen land, denying basic human rights to the people whose land and property you have stolen, whose livelihoods you destroy, whose children you routinely murder. Please don't come this victim shite. It doesn't wash. You're not the victim, you're the jackbooted oppressors. So what are Israel meant to do? Give back the entire area and all move to America? There will never be a solution to this as long as the intentions of Hamas are to wipe out Israel.Are you aware that Israel keeps encroaching on Palestine, year by year, month by month, day by day? By force? By theft and murder? You speak as though there were two settled states, and one seeks the destruction of the other - but you seem to misunderstand which is effecting the destruction of the other. I find it laughable that supporters of Israel fasten on to a couple of paras in a document to argue that Hamas seeks the destruction of Israel, when lived reality every day demonstrates that Israel is achieving the destruction of Palestine, and the genocide of the Palestinian people. I'm not a supporter of Israel. I can only go by what I see and read. You seem to know quite a lot. Have you lived in Israel or Palestine and experienced what is happening first hand? What do you feel is the solution?

It's you who needs to understand the reality. You are the occupying army. You live on stolen land, denying basic human rights to the people whose land and property you have stolen, whose livelihoods you destroy, whose children you routinely murder. Please don't come this victim shite. It doesn't wash. You're not the victim, you're the jackbooted oppressors. So what are Israel meant to do? Give back the entire area and all move to America? There will never be a solution to this as long as the intentions of Hamas are to wipe out Israel.

You can't base a decision on a players ability after a few games but when they look as assured and solid as Okore did against both Chelsea and Liverpool you understandably have high hopes for the player. Nobody knows whether he will continue from where he left off but sometimes it doesn't take a season to see that a player has got something about him.

This guy has gone from apparently being the worst RB to ever play at Villa and a player that will never play for Villa again to a potential starter for the first game of the season 2 years later. So in 2 seasons we couldn't find anybody better and we couldn't even get rid of him. What the hell goes on at this club?

We drew the Hull game 0-0.

Wire is some of the best tv you will ever see.

Sorry to hear about your friend mate. It's a bit of a cliche to say the good ones go first but in a lot of cases it really is true. It's always good to remember and celebrate the good times.

I say the achievement part because I remember looking at the team that was fielded against West Ham and thinking that is probably the worst Vila team I'd ever seen. But then I also remember that Xmas period and the Bradford debacle. We will never know if keeping us up was an achievement but at least we are still here for now.

Come on, that's a weak argument and you know it. If he had done his job better we wouldn't have been so deep in the mire that we would've needed one player to drag us to safety. Also, is that "shit" squad the same one we all lambasted McLeish for underacheiving with? The same one that contained players that everyone is saying makes our team better again now that his absurd 'bomb-squad' policy has been abandoned? Anyway, I have these arguments numerous times now and they always end in a complete stalemate. I'm sure you'll find my response to the points you're about to follow this post up with in the Lambert thread. I actually think Mcleish did a good job too. I personally think it's MONs 'squad' and the selling of key players that led us to this downfall. The same investment had to be put back in, in relation to the massively key players that were sold. That includes wages too. But it wasn't. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Lambert but I'm grateful we are still in this league. I've seen better squads relegated in that time.

But he has, so we're not. Seriously why even say this unless you're looking for an argument? He looked awesome in his first few games and if he played that way all season there would have been a hell of a lot of interest. I've no doubt there still are a lot of eyes on him.

No...he doesn't. Why doesn't he? That squad he took over was a pile of shit and he has had peanuts to spend. Yet we survive. So how did we manage that? Bentake, that's how. Who signed him?

Yet his our record Premier League goalscorer? It goes to show how shit we really are then.

Don't know if you're being serious mate but I hope you are because we'd have more chance of keeping the lad if he is one of us!Jacks always been a villa fan. More than me and villas a massive part of my life. Im surprised you've never heard that he's villa mad.If he shines as a Villa player and a big club came in, you could never stop a player getting their big move. We should have been the club that was good enough to stay at your whole career such as Gerrard at Liverpool. But it isn't the case anymore. But if we ever sold him to an average time like MON did with Cahill I will give up on supporting Villa. I loved Cahill Me too, Cahill was a massive mistake especially when you consider what got signed for big money in his position. As for Jack, well happy to hear he's a villan. Lots of positives around him right now but I'd still try and protect him if we're in for a relegation battle, he could do without the burden mentally to keep him trying things and being creative and taking people on. I'd hate that to get stifled by the need to be "tight" and not ship goals. I see where you're coming from but if he is good enough it doesn't matter. We need quality players and if he is good enough he should play. Did you ever see Man U trying to ease youngster in and they've probably got the biggest pressure there is when fans are involved. Just let the lad play football. At Manu though he will be surrounded by players who can cover for him, at Villa he isn't - I wouldn't put all of our creative eggs upon the shoulder of an 18 year old. - I highly doubt Lambert will start him against stoke. We aren't thought. We just want the best players on the pitch.

Don't know if you're being serious mate but I hope you are because we'd have more chance of keeping the lad if he is one of us!Jacks always been a villa fan. More than me and villas a massive part of my life. Im surprised you've never heard that he's villa mad. If he shines as a Villa player and a big club came in, you could never stop a player getting their big move. We should have been the club that was good enough to stay at your whole career such as Gerrard at Liverpool. But it isn't the case anymore. But if we ever sold him to an average time like MON did with Cahill I will give up on supporting Villa. I loved Cahill Me too, Cahill was a massive mistake especially when you consider what got signed for big money in his position. As for Jack, well happy to hear he's a villan. Lots of positives around him right now but I'd still try and protect him if we're in for a relegation battle, he could do without the burden mentally to keep him trying things and being creative and taking people on. I'd hate that to get stifled by the need to be "tight" and not ship goals. I see where you're coming from but if he is good enough it doesn't matter. We need quality players and if he is good enough he should play. Did you ever see Man U trying to ease youngster in and they've probably got the biggest pressure there is when fans are involved. Just let the lad play football.

I disagree. If he is good enough he should play. Stoke aren't the team they were under Pulis and even if they were he has to face a physical game sooner or later. We may have high hopes for the lad but Stoke aren't about to think Messi is on the pitch and hack him down. The combination of Stoke and being the first game of the season, Id pack that team with every inch of experience we have - even Gabby who I thought was poor today......Id save Jack for the home games that follow only 7 days later The game Rooney scored that winner against Arsenal. Wasn't that his first game? Edit: we are shit. If he is better than what we have he has to play. End of.

My view on it remains the same. I don't have have a problem with that system but I don't believe Lambert is able to play it properly. It involves a balance which is too complex for him to begin to replicate. That's why whenever we play it, it is basically 5-3-----2. The front-two are always ridiculously isolated. I agree but I thinks that's more down to the players rather than the manager. When we've had our strongest team whatever formation Lambert plays it generally works. A couple of key players injured and then it all falls apart. Lambert has got a very hard job and although he has made big mistakes. He needs to be applauded for keeping us up.

I disagree. If he is good enough he should play. Stoke aren't the team they were under Pulis and even if they were he has to face a physical game sooner or later. We may have high hopes for the lad but Stoke aren't about to think Messi is on the pitch and hack him down.