King Cropley

Yes mate, so both of you keep saying.

Yes indeed you have stated 'facts'....the facts that suit you. For us to get 11th would have required us to beat Man City and Spurs away whilst hoping that Crystal Palace, one of the current form teams of the division got nothing. Thanks for that, I hope we win the league next season - hopefully nobody else plays until June.

Is one match against spurs the difference between acceptable or unacceptable? No, Before today we could have finished 11th. After next week we could finish 17th. The difference between 11th - 17th determines what's acceptable. The table doesn't lie. If we finished 13th i'd take that. If we finish 17th then I wouldn't No it doesn't, really....the only way we have got anywhere near 11th would have been an earthquake or plane crash.....we've been shit for so long now we're numbed to reality.... We were 6 points of 11th. We had 2 games left. Football is a game where anything can happen. Remember a couple of years we had Arsenal and Liverpool as our final games? People didn't give us a chance.... We won both games. It happens. Give it up mate, you're embarrassing yourself......

Bewildered at the 'we defended well' comments ?....we spent 70 minutes kicking the ball as hard as we could away from our goal, 10 minutes chasing lost causes with no forward threat and the rest of the time running around a bit hoping we could get in the way of their forwards.........

It was only 2 until the final 5 minutes once Lambert had subbed off 2 defenders and replaced them with 2 attackers. It was a good defensive performance. Against Man City. Think about that. If you expected us to whallop Man City to nil you are being very creditably optimistic but to blame Lambert for it not happening as you planned is very harsh. Be assured mate, I did not expect us to get anywhere near Man City....the only thing that surprised was how long it took them to score. But to think they caught us on the break late in the game is as deluded as it is ludicrous....I can't recall us giving them any kind of problem. The very least I expect on behalf of the people who paid good money to go and watch that shite is some kind of attacking threat or plan.....we may as well have played 8-1-1 (maybe we did but I fell asleep)....

You gotta laugh, Bertrand not good enough for us ?.... Ha ha ha ha ha ha

This is a joke, right ?

Great news then apparently ? Only 4 ? I must have missed these great tactics where our defenders coped valiantly, our midfield battled hard, our 2 forwards worked the defenders relentlessly and by some great mystery we only let in 4 ? Whale spunk is less thick than some of these people...

Is one match against spurs the difference between acceptable or unacceptable? No, Before today we could have finished 11th. After next week we could finish 17th. The difference between 11th - 17th determines what's acceptable. The table doesn't lie. If we finished 13th i'd take that. If we finish 17th then I wouldn't No it doesn't, really....the only way we have got anywhere near 11th would have been an earthquake or plane crash.....we've been shit for so long now we're numbed to reality....

..be assured, he will have a lot more of a clue than some of the half wits on here...

HH said that he requested the ball to be played in that way as it's how he preferred to attack the ball. ...as opposed to the usual Westwood / Albrighton special which rarely beats the near post defender ?

We could easily shift most of them players, if can't sell them then it would be easy enough to loan them out and have a championship club pay most of their wages. Most of these are probably on £10-15k a week....not mega money in the scheme of things, but I'd be interested to hear which Championship teams would dig up £7-12k a week to take any of this lot on ?

Are people not responsible for their own actions? Lambert is the manager, he should know what is going on! Ever occurred to you it didn't happen in front of him? Bullying rarely does. Should he have mutant powers? See through walls, hear from miles away? I wouldn't blame him for not knowing about any bullying allegations.....however, promoting your brother-in-law into a position like the one he had at a Premier League club, when he's barely kicked a ball himself, rarely ends well.....another error of judgement to add to the catalogue of shite he's presided over.

Those players are actually decent squad players though. And haven't those sat on the bench rather than bent, Hutton etc is far better for us. Agreed - And what we need is a squad - these are part of the squad - just add quality to the team and we won't need to sell them at all - given more game time they could become better - Bowery had more than 15 mins on the pitch and had his best game for Villa after being deemed shit and not good enough. In the eyes of the 'experts' he probably still is. That's twice you've been right this season - congratulations.

Those players are actually decent squad players though. And haven't those sat on the bench rather than bent, Hutton etc is far better for us. No they aren't, honestly. Lowton isn't bad and for all his detractors KEA works his goolies off. The rest of them ? I wouldn't feed 'em never mind pay 'em.

I'm with you mate.....we'll be back.

Why ? Is he that good ?

What the actual ****? Which bit of the 'actual f**k' didn't you grasp ?

To be honest I'm with BJ10, I've never been convinced about him. I sometimes think that after watching the likes of God, Laursen and to a slightly lesser extent Mellberg, we're all desperate for a hero type centre back. Vlaar ain't that, albeit he hasn't had the best of defensive partners.... I still recall the time when we signed him and Feyenoord fans were on some Villa fan sites taking the piss. At the time I just thought it was sour grapes but maybe they had a point ?

Too many insipid performances, awful home record, 8-0 beating, no idea of best team or formation most of the time, getting knocked out of cups on a consistent basis by lower league teams, baffling us with his mumbled responses after matches.....for all these reasons and more, bye bye Paul.

Minimum £250k a week on the wage bill ? Yep, that will be happening real soon...Jesus wept......as it happens I think they're worth it but I'm fairly confident my opinion won't be shared at Trinity Towers...

You could always try plane spotting instead ?

Yep....they'll all be leaving ten minutes early next. Laughable.