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I love listening to Alex Jones sometimes, not the hurtful stuff like the Sandy Hook comments, but when he goes off on passionate rants about chemicals in water turning frogs gay, I find it hilarious, the man is comedy gold at times.

....So, you're saying....

I couldn't tell you, I just watch them and think "hmmm he's got a point" and then I move on, I can agree with someone on some things without having a strong feeling one way or another on them, same as I can disagree with someone and not have a strong feeling one way or the other. I do know that an awful lot of people say that his books have helped them in a big way, I've never read them and I'm not sure on what they are about but, meh, I don't mind him, he's just someone that pops up every now and again.

I've watched and agreed with a fair few of his videos, I'm not a massive fan but he's someone that I'll take a look at every now and again if one of his videos pops up on youtube. I'm not a climate denier, homophobic, anti-vax, anti-trans, anti-woke et al

No surprise at all I wonder if this will encourage more women to come forward and name other celebrities because I am sure that there is more than a few

I've seen this as well, they are saying that there are dates missing off the messages (I might be wrong but if you reply to a message shortly after it was sent then the date doesn't appear as it will be the same as the previous message) They are also saying that the font is bolder on the second half of a message and that it is misaligned. Could be some shithousery going on or it could have just been the way the messages were stitched together for the purpose of the program. Put it this way, if it is shithousery and they have been doctored or faked then they'll be opening themselves up to a lawsuit that will cost them millions, would they be stupid enough to put a 4 year investigation in jeopardy for the sake on one text message?

I think this is where you are going wrong @Demitri_C the argument is that this won't be going to to a court hearing as it stands at the moment, I believe that more people will come forward and he will end up being charged with "something" at least, but what people are saying is that this investigation, regardless of a court case or not has showed him to be a word removed of the highest order. People are thinking that you are saying that he should just be able to carry on with his day to day life as if nothing has happened until he is charged and that people shouldn't think any less of him until/if he is convicted, I know that isn't what you are getting at but I think the whole "he needs an actual conviction" is where people think that you are not believing the women that have come forward so far. That's what I'm getting anyways. I'm dipping out of this thread for a bit now, its going round in circles.

This whole thread is painful, Some people think he is guilty and understand that a conviction is unlikely with the evidence available therefore are willing to have him tried by public opinion which will lead to him being blacklisted and effectively cancelled Other people think that he is most likely guilty but would like more substantial proof and would prefer to see him actually convicted for what he's done. It is never an easy situation when dealing with rape or sexual assault allegations, I don't think that any body is outright defending him here.

He's saying that it isn't valid because people are saying that these women are fame hungry, attention grabbing, after their 5 minutes of fame etc, but that argument is blown out of the water when they have chosen to remain anonymous. I don't think he is arguing about the difficulty to prove it, just the arguments that people are raising.

I just want to clarify, that it isn't my point at all, I'm fairly certain that the women are telling the truth and that lots more will come out over the next few days/weeks. As I said, I was playing devils advocate and just repeating some of the things I've seen on Twatter and Reddit.

agreed but you can't deny that she did a huge amount of damage to the #metoo movement. especially when you see some of the things that these girls are being called on Twatter, its truly disgusting

Amber Heard single-handedly destroyed that movement lol

@Demitri_C I actually kind of agree with you, it looks really bad for Brand and I have no doubt that he is a bastard and I am not for a second saying he is innocent...BUT, all of these accounts can be easily swatted away if you are part of Brands cult. Girl 1 - she shags a celebrity, next day goes to a rape crises centre - it was entirely consensual and she was planning to sell her story/blackmail Brand, why didn't she push forward with this plan of extortion? who knows Girl 2 - he shoved his penis in her mouth until she was gagging and then said "I only wanted to see your mascara running" the damning evidence is that this is also a joke in his stand up show, the bastard is actually writing jokes about his abuse....or the girl was approached by Dispatches and she tailored her story to this joke to give it more credence The Girls accounts can't be taken seriously because they didn't come forward with this, they were approached by Dispatches, they never had any problem going about their lives up until they were told that they would be on telly (ignoring the fact that they have remained anonymous), they are just after their 5 minutes of fame. Again, I don't believe the above and I'm just playing devils advocate to the Reddit weirdo's, but what Demitri is saying is that there is no conclusive evidence to show that he has done these things, and that is the problem, even if it went to trial and he was found guilty, people would still be able to defend him due to lack of evidence (unless anything more came out that 100% showed him to be the bastard he appears to be)

Nate The Lawyers take on it

Be careful with that, you'll have channel 4 sniffing around you

All in all, I think that shows that Brand is a an absolute gobshite who abused his position of power but there isn't any stone cold evidence to back the claims up aside from the medical records and one text message, both of which can pretty easily be explained away if you want to continue to support him. I doubt if he will be getting the lawyers on the case because you would expect the makers of this program and the writers of the article to have everything absolutely watertight, plus the longer that this stays in the public the more potential victims that will come forward and he won't want that, my guess is that he'll lie low for a while and slowly return to his youtube shenanigans.

this dude has called him out before, saw a video on it, he was on a podcast with some other comedians and he basically says what an absolute piece of shit he was, the only thing that got a reaction from the others was when he said that Brand steals other people comedy, then one of the others said "well at least he got to **** Katy Perry"

regardless of what we think about that one, legally he didn't have a leg to stand on

Wacko Jacko guilty, I still feel bad for poor old Bubbles. OJ clearly innocent, the glove didn't fit.

someone will be filming it dont worry about that

Anyone reckon that Russell will get lawyered up after this or just disappear from the public eye completely? In a way I can see why it is so hard to prosecute these sorts of cases, from what I've read so far they have one text message where he apologises after someone says "No means No" and there is the medical records, but is that enough? the records thing could be fobbed off as someone who had consensual sex and then was looking to frame him as he was in the public eye. The other girls are recounting things that happened years ago with no evidence to back them up. It isn't like the Greenwood case where there is actual video and audio footage of the abuse, and even then he managed to get off scot free. I'm not disputing what they are saying at all, not for a second, just saying that I can see why it would be so difficult to deal with these cases so long after the event.

that's the beauty of One Demand TV, you can go about your day job and still be able to watch your rapeyness in all its glory just a few hours later

I wonder if he is actually watching this right now

Brand doesn't bother me, I used to find him quite funny, he was good on quiz of the year that one time with noel fielding. I've watched a few of his YouTube videos and they are just the rantings and a dandy who swallowed a dictionary, he isn't exactly a big deal these days is he.

Heard that it could be Russel Brand that is flapping it, I'm not sure how I feel about that, I don't have any feelings towards old Russel, he's just a dude who chats shit, shagged women and used to be a former junky...where I am a bit dubious about what may come out about him is that there is a woman at work who talks and sounds just like him to the point that I have got the whole office referring to her as Russel, I'll be gutted if that nickname is all of a sudden banned.