danceoftheshamen

It was obvious when watching the movement from both players in the replay... How on Earth VAR deemed it worthy of sending it to the ref can only be corruption. As for the ref watching that and coming to the conclusion he did is yet more evidence. It was so obvious. Luiz only reacted to Mitrovic in the tiniest of movements which it would be impossible to create enough force from to down a player. Plus there was obviously no blood or swelling etc. Absolute stonewall corruption as both VAR & the ref cannot possibly both be as stupid as that. It happen week in week out too alway in favour of the media 6 & London clubs (Unless they play each other when it tends to balance out of course). It's no surprise that the league table reflects this huge bias either as it makes a massive difference to a clubs points tally over a season (And already is after just 10/11 games evidently.

As I stated last night....That was play-acting of the most disgusting kind by Mitrovic. It was obvious just by watching the same images that the ref "saw". As for the FA & their now double skinned layer of "officiating" which imposes their will to keep the media 6 & the London clubs in situ? Well it seriously needs investigating, like Fifa was investigated...As in by a neutral body such as the CIA who know what to look for. Using any football related body is totally pointless as the number one concern will be to cover up any corruption to both keep the status quo of the Media 6 and help out the swathe of London clubs as well as to make it look as though nothing is really wrong so as to not taint the game in the "best league in the World". Most corrupt league more like. So now Gerrard is out of his job and his last chance was effectively taken away by the outragious VAR & Ref decision (even though we had been poor to that point, nobody knew whether we may just have turned it around if Mitrovic had been sent off for blatantly cheating). That incident alone may just have fired up the Villa players. I doubt it but that is not the point. We were cheated on a really crucial night for the team & in particular SG. It's an utter disgrace. They should seriously hang their heads in shame the lot of them & Mitrovic in particular.

As it stands we are totally in a relegation battle and looking the most out of sorts team in it. Hopefully the right appointment changes it fast but with Brentford, Newcastle away, Man U & Brighton away upcoming it is not looking like changing anytime soon! The new guy seriously needs to hit the ground running to avoid one that's for sure.

Well he is according to his own words apparently as was quoted above somewhere. When Wolves were linked I believe. Of course words are cheap and this may be very wrong and just professional soundbites.

So as fully expected, it appears as though Poch is not at all interested in joining a relegation battle. In all honesty I am not overly disappointed as I feel he would have been off as soon as Spurs (looking quite possible with the angst their fan base is showing currently) or one of the Euro super clubs & possibly even a big international job came knocking. The last thing we need is a manager jumping ship part way through a project! I don't think it would have been very long either with a load of international jobs likely appearing too after the World cup. As for the other contenders? Personally I think we have zero chance of Thomas Frank leaving Brentford, who are far better than us currently. I cannot see Tuchel going from a Champs League club to a relegation battle either. I'd also put Emery in that bracket...... So who? The guy from Sporting appears very happy at Sporting & that release clause, if true, is abscene for a guy who has never managed in a top League with all due respect to the Portugese division. That is an expensive gamble! So I really have no clue. Beale I feel is just too involved in proceedings at QPR & would be too closely associated with the whole Gerrard saga. He'd likely turn it down out of respect for SG too regardless. It really is looking like a small to medium pond with some smaller sized fish swimming around in it along with a few medium sized fish & just a few ageing bigger fish who have a little fungus appearing around the edges which cannot see or swim as eagerly as they used to. The truly big fish would come nowhere near this pond however as there is simply not enough room for them to manouvre as they would like.

Simply had to happen, despite the odd small spike in the graph the overall trend was rapidly down! I do feel a bit sorry for the guy and in particular Critchley leaving a decent role at Blackpool & SG having left a good role at Rangers etc but it was clear Beale leaving was catastrophic for him. He did have some bad luck with the injuries etc but he simply did not have the skills to adapt the team accordingly.

I really think we're going down as things stand Chris. This is a shambles. Only hope is a new manager & limping through till Jan and hopefully get Kamara & Carlos back pls a new striker & midfeilder.

So looking ahead to a season or two in the Championship. I wonder who we would be able to keep? Surely the likes of Coutinho, Bailey, Martinez, Kamara, McGinn, Ramsey, Digne etc would depart straightaway? I also think Luiz, Carlos & a few others would want out? Not sure on Buendia as he was in there with Norwich for a good while but he may want out too. So It would likely be Olson Bidace - Konsa - Mings - Augustinsson? Dendonker / Iroegbunam? Kesler Hayden Buendia Archer Watkins Subs: Ings, Ben Chrisene, Aaron Ramsey, Calum Chambers Plus some incoming no doubt. I have no clue how that team would fare but that's near to what I think we'd have left.

It's going to take a while for me to buy into Villa again in all honesty. I won't be listening to anymore BS soundbites and false promises. Even before tonights game we got the pathetic "Me & the players are determined to put it right and we are going to be looking for a win at Fulham" nonsense. I am not falling for it again. Show me the results and excite me Villa if you want my belief back. As it is I have zero faith or belief in the club which is currently quite frankly a joke.

Can someone explain to me, why the heck would you drop Matty Cash to put Bednarek in when our back 4 has been so disrupted anyway? On what planet was that a good decision? Surely if there were these apparent green shoots against Chelsea it would have made sense to keep that vibe going rather than remove one of the attacking full backs? Such a bizzarre decision which for me did not help with cohesion at the back and gave Fulham the inititative right from the get go. He of course had to change it at half time as it had badly failed. Just another example of clueless management & coaching in my eyes. The one thing we needed tonight was that little bit of continuity in the team after all the disruption of the first 9 games. A daft mistake which the half time sub confirmed for me.

The corruption at FA towers continues apace. How the ref cannot see that was played for, clear acting and a pathetically exaggerated reaction from the cheating bully boy that is Mitrovic the Lord only knows.....Or it could be the ongoing bias/corruption towards the Media 6 & London clubs of course. For me Mitrovic should have been sent off for blatantly trying to con the officials. As for VAR, well we all know it's corrupt regardless.

Was a played for red card by the cheat that is Mitrovic. Of course it's against a London club so VAR couldn't wait to give it. You could not clearly tell from the images I saw, except that Mitrovic clearly played for it. Another joke handball too which would not have been given had it been a media 6 club against one of the rest. We were however an embarrassment regardless.

Leicester are far better than us and it was only a matter of time until they picked up. Wolves will be next once the new manager is in place there. Nobody above us is worse than us either, a few maybe on a par but now we are playing catch up from below them which will be very tough. Get the guy gone for goodness sake, it's shambolic!

We are going down. This team is appalling and Gerrard should have been sacked before this was allowed to get engrained. Instead Purslow sat on his hands and now we have a team bereft of any confidence at all with fewer & fewer games left for a new manager to save the season. We are from what I have seen the worst team in the division by a country mile. We have the odd flash or half game when we are competitive but it happens like once every 3 games. and even then is rarely enough to get 3 points unless it's against a team having a serious off day.

Shocking performance from him. Can't believe he lost a foot race with a Fulham player who started the race about 10 metres behind him. Thought he was supposed to be quick?

Me & my daughter will not be wasting time watching this tragedy team again this season either until he has gone. Biggest waste of money ever those season tickets. What an absolute disaster he has been. It's actually an embarrassment being associated with it all. Relegation fodder.

I personally think we did give them a very tough game yesterday, as in we made them run around a heck of a lot in that 1st hour, (It was like taking candy off a baby for them in that last 30 mins though)... However we totally let them off the hook with awful, panicky finishing, plus a few top saves from their keeper of course. I do think though that with better finishing, he would not have been able to make the saves regardless, so again it boils down to poor finishing. Confidence is clearly now a factor in that.

That result was by-en-large substandard finishing and Football League level (& quite a low one at that) control & quality from a few of our players. Unfortunately there really is not a lot Gerrard can do about that. He can however drop players for repeatedly doing the same & give a go to others. The issue is that it's our "big" players doing it... McGinn, Watkins, Coutihno & others. The quality some of them are showing is way below the level it should be at. I was watching the difference with City against Liverpool& in similar situations the control of those players is instant and clearly what you would expect at Premier League level. It made a huge difference to the attacking threat. So for me, on Sunday at least, it was down to poor quality from the players when thye should be much better, for the 1st hour. The rest of the game after 0-2 was frankly appaling however and that was not helped by Gerrards Substitutions in my view. To play well, at home and lose 0-2 is very concerning however. Normally the saying is "if you play badly & win it's the sign of a good team" so quite what "if you play well & still lose" says I really don't know.

I missed the first half as I forgot my phone & left it on display in my car, so I decided to leave the ground to walk back & get it due to the risk of having a window smashed. I knew there was virtualy zero chance of missing a Villa goal too which made the decision easier. As it happens my daughter told me I missed the best part of our performance & due to that I can't comment on that part of the game. I did see the last 10 mins of the 1st half and most of the second however and from what I saw it was the usual. Decent approach play ruined by Non-League level forward play. It is just so predictable. I even said at half time that that would likely be our best and Potter would inevitably change it whilst Gerrard would stick resulting in them likely going two up when he would then panic and send on random subs but definatley not Archer..... Guess what.

I had a very interesting chat with a colleague at work tonight up here in the East Mids. He is a big ST holding Forest fan and a very decent guy too actually. He is not the type to say anything confrontational or whatever..........anyhow you get the picture. Well he was at the game last night and he said basically he thought they were there for the taking and gave us ample chances to get in on their goal which we repeatedly didn't take. Then he mentioned that when McGinn came off he was trying to pass the captains armband on but none of our players wanted it and were kind if waving it away with a bit of a look of "I don't want it mate" about them. From what he says it was a bit like they were almost taking the "p" about it. The Forest fans around him were apparently quite shocked by it and all talking about it. Can anyone verify this who was there? Or maybe it was at the wrong end of the ground for our fans to see it properly? Anyhow, and i will stress "if true" If that does not say "LOST DRESSING ROOM" in great big flashing lights then I don't know what would!

But of course, Media 6 Big London Club who are clearly getting the FA seal of approval this season, most likely as they haven't been up there for a few seasons so too good a chance to miss. They will get given everything and anything this season. As for us of course we are one of the "rest" or "other 13" clubs so we will never benefit from the Helping hand these media clubs get. The incident on Konsa was as close to identical as you could get to the one on Jesus...One rule for one, another for the other. It happens every week. Not blaming our result on this but If we were a Media 6 club we would likely be walking away with 3 points right now had we converted the inevitable penalty.

Absolutely attrocious The play upto around 18 yards from the opposition goal is not too bad, as soon as it gets ast that it is Non-league level in my view. Completely amatuerish. The end product is literally appaling. Watkins once again constantly making the wrong choices or just woeful with his first touch. Coutinho shooting miles over & wide when a good player would have it in the top corner (He does this almost every game). Zero threat from set pieces just dog awful. As for McGinns diving header effort & Archers defensive header when he had a chance to score well don't even start me on those.

Has "typical Villa defeat" written all over this tonight. We are unbeaten in 3, they are rock bottom and on a run of 6 defeats, "Villa no-show" is nearly always the outcome in those circumstances. I am surrounded by Forest fans at work here in the East Mids, who magically appeared from nowhere when they got promoted... as it happens. They were all saying after the defeat to Leicester "Oh well we'll win the next one against his lot" then nodding towards my direction. Sad thing is I really couldn't disagree! If it means Gerrard gone and someone of Pochettino's ilk coming in then so be it although like most I really don't think it would impact that eventuality regardless, so I hope we win and get away from that relegation zone.

So I await Mondays encounter with a Struggling Forest side with baited breath. I am genuinely expecting nothing at all having watched us labour against the likes of Bournemouth, Palace, Leeds & Southampton. Meanwhile over at QPR...........!!

This is exactly it for me. He has the potential to be fantastic in a pair but it's finding the right partner who he'll work with. I do feel it's worth a try with Archer but you would think this has been tried in training etc? So maybe this is why Archer does not get minutes? Maybe SG just doesn't think they work together either? We desperately need to solve this conundrum however to have any hope of European football.