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Maybe they mis-heard you when in the spirit of the season you announced you were an "elf inspector"

It's actually ALL public sector pensions that are included in that definition. Whether you agree with the definition is an argument worth having, but yet again, the teachers are making the most noise about it. So what? The fundamental issue is still there that this Gvmt led by the Tory party is basically spewing out lies and deceit - all part of this vindictive agenda they have. They have always been a party of greed and deceit and nothing changes

I think we'd already established suits in the work place = people crap at their job trying to cover it up by trying to look "smart" see The Appprentice for example Work should be relaxed , shorts in the summer , comedy hat with ear covers in the winter Or, accepted practise in probably 90% of the UK's offices. I wear a suit, and am ace at my job, so ner. funnily enough our FD comes in wearing a suit as do the auditors , must be something about that profession But I've worked for 5 company's in my working career ( 2 of them investment banks ) and only at 1 of them did i have to wear a suit ... I currently visit 6 clients regularly ( one of them is probably in the top 10 largest companies in the world ) none of them wear a suit but at least we know who did Tesco's over estimated accounting Yeah suits are dead. Everyone sees modern dress code as being dotcom so unless your CEO is a dinosaur it's anything goes now. could not be more wrong if you got given a book of wrong for Christmas You are talking from personal "fashion" rather than what business etiquette basically dictates. Top Trumping Tony's claim, I work with many of the UK's and probably the world largest companies and a hell of a lot of the ones in the Villa positions also. The use of the business suit and smart attire for work is still very much part of the business life all around. Turning up for a business meeting in jeans and t shirt for example is just a sign of disrespect for the people you are dealing with unless some sort of dress code is specifically dictated before.

How low have we sunk under this bumbling clown. Yet another game without a win. Get rid now FFS Randy and give a new manager a bit of a chance in January changing some of the players

Been to Calgary many times with work - used to have an office that looked onto the Rockies - even though a good hour drive away still an awesome place. Been all over Alberta while I went out there, so went to "little Japan" as the locals call it, ie Banff. It's a very nice place, but I think there are better nearby. We used to stay in Canmore and Kananaskis which you cannot beat to wake up in the morning and go "wow" when you open the curtains and see the place. Lake Louise is always good for a visit - been 4 times now tried to visit in each of the seasons to see how much it changes etc

For me the biggest difference is that if a horse is lame at least you can take it out back and shoot it. Villa don't have a good record for shots on target under Lambert

I wonder if osborne will be calling people autistic again?

Another low this time the attendance. Why do people still defend him? An awful manager who is very instrumental in the demise of the club . Get rid now , god awful manager who has no right to be stealing a wage from villa still

Isn't that what MP's say right before they stick a knife in and depose them ? The word is that Cameron is quite lazy more interested in his iPad and then gets caught out by events ... Sometimes he pulls a homer and comes out of it with a result ... Of course sometimes he doesn't Ed has to be the standout of recent times though , but for all the wrong reasons , in the history of politics never was a man more ill equipped to be PM ... Though Gordon Brown may run him close for the title Hmmm - http://www.londonlovesbusiness.com/business-news/politics/purr-gate-blunder-struck-camerons-top-gaffes/8928.article Plus http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/david-camerons-bread-gaffe-just-2326331 http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/pm-david-cameron-new-royal-gaffe-about-the-queens-van-dyck-9764420.html and many many more

Shopping for a Beano ring on the BBC? - do QVC sell them? am I confused? and why would Bobby Davro want one?

Nice attempt to deflect there (Hint check thread title ) As bicks already pointed out she was sacked before the media even got whiff of the non story ... no deflection whatsoever. Merely identifying the reasoning behind an attack by tory led media on milliband and labour was to protect their own. I wonder if the same media will report the large trend of anti cameron across social media, of course they wont because like a lot of tory supporters they are concerned only with milliband and ignoring what cameron and farage are actually standing for

What it said was the tory party is in disarray and as a media outlet that supports it we must deflect any attention to that quickly

62 Tory mp's have direct links to private health organisations .

I see the funny name to win a argument is the way forward As for privatisation to claim incorrectly that labour started it is just a weak argument. The Tory party holds long term inbuilt desire to privatise health care, the facts to support this are there for all to see. The nhs is far too important to allow it to be killed off by these self serving knob heads in the Tory party supported by ukip . Idiocy like posting pictures of burnham are just weak deflection attempts away from the issue . But it's a typical Tory tactic and comes as no surprise

Appreciate you are on a wind up Tony .... :-)

But not one of those media "quotes" said they were going to sign him, it was in response to a question from the media about the possibility of that. You say that info is in the public domain but how much of it is then read and understood when you see people spouting off their opinions about him being part of Sheff Utd again. Merely training with the club to regain fitness is not playing, is not an intention to sign or anything. The club may have done a few things wrong, and that is a grey area for me, but they are being unfairly criticised IMO and have acted as things have developed. Nothing in the quotes above contradicts that and a lot of the opinion is added by the media outlets reporting it. As said its a distraction at the club that will no longer be there now. As for Evans and should he play again, well banning him or ostracizing him out of football all together is a dangerous precedent, and one that would need very careful consideration, and football does not have a great track record there

If it's Kay Burley where do I sign?

The media "outrage" from Tory supporters like the Sun was OTT, and the cynic in me sees a link between the Tory party debacle with UKIP and a desire to deflect attention away from that. If you look back a whole series of tweets from her then you will see similar ones previously praising people who had dressed up their home with flags etc. It was a trivial matter and as Chris says you never see the outrage from certain media outlets to people like Boris and his blatant racist comments, but that is a different agenda I suppose.

Having spent a bit of time at the Sheff Utd training ground recently I have a slightly different perspective to one based on media reports. There is a lot of people out there wanting to be the star of the show and be outraged based on what they think they know rather than what has actually happening. The training is fitness and not part of the first teams match day. There is a lot of security around the training to avoid outsiders causing a scene. Sheff Utd after a request from the PFA allowed a former employee who under the law had served a sentence to try and regain fitness and continue with his life. Now after the impact on the club, and the club is always bigger than the individual, they have said that they can no longer offer their training facilities to Evans. The distraction and impact to the club is far too great to allow the arrangement to continue obviously. Sheff Utd have never condoned the crime or the sentence, that is a legal matter dealt with by the judicial system etc. Hopefully now the distraction of all of this will mean getting into the training ground is slightly easier. And that the life issues for both Evans and the victim can be resolved in other ways

finger on the pulse Peter

They do as they are told mostly, mere puppets of groups behind them (at all levels).

People are more interested in moaning on facebook, or whining on twitter theses days than doing that, that sadly is the world we live in today A very valid point you raise Dem. Look at the popularity of some of the things that Britain First spew out on FB. People are hoodwinked into believing they are outraged over topics that give false information. See the BS they say about people being jailed for putting a poppy on a mosque etc. The Uber Right are playing on fears and ignorance via the social media platform which in turn becomes "fact" because someone on the internet said so. Bringing it back on topic I wonder how and why the mainstream parties have not used social media more effectively? At work we are doing a lot of work with Twitter for example now that gives great insight to social patterns and behaviours. Even the most simple political animals can use social media for a positive method if they approached it correctly. All of the major parties seem to fail in being able to do it. If they did then maybe some of the idiocy surrounding the appearance fixations would no longer appear

well said that man cough She is like the UK previously shagged by a Thatcher loving tory and will no doubt be done again once the next couple of months are out of the way. I was actually looking for the post where you specifically commented on how ugly she was but I guess that thread has been pruned Tony - I have never commented on how ugly she is / was - that is a lie (so I think you need to prove it or apologise) Regarding the comment - I am not sure of your point - it was a comment stating that she and the UK had both been shagged by Cameron - so a massive fail on your part

well said that man