MagicMushroom

Needs better central defenders to help him along. Its basicly an inexperienced experiment, and its killing us. Personally, of all the defenders, Lowtons the one i have more faith in.

Not true. Fergie was having a right tantrum with his team during the second half, and its why he subbed Rooney. When you go in 3-0 up at half time, you are actually thinking game over and job done, so its difficult sometimes, to keep that momentum for the second half. Some of thier key players (Rooney) had switched off mentally. Getting tighter to Rooney and filling the midfield just compounded that, since they were finding less space. To assume they were told to take it easy, is plain wrong. Besides, most of us had written this game off beforehand, so its not as if it were unexpected. Sunderland is the game to judge. You say not true, I say absolutely true. They had already won, they didn't fear us and just took the foot off the pedal. If it was Arsenal or City they would have continued, but they don't have the urge to destroy us the same way and most were probably thinking about which club they were going to the same evening. Besides, even at half pace they created a sitter for Kagawa and a pretty good chance for Rooney (twice) from outside the box after some nice play by Van Persie. Not that it matter from last night, but it matters in the long run as we actually have a shot at finishing better than Wigan in terms of GD. I have no problems with all that or in bits morph said, other than the notion they had been "told" to go easy at half time. Fergie was absolutely going ape with some of his players for sloppy balls and not picking up the momentum. Bringing on KEA just compounded it, be leaving less space. TBH, i dont think the result would of been any different if we had started the game with an extra midfielder!

WE WILL DEFINATELY BEAT NORWICH. A win or draw against Sunderland and a point against Chelsea. Will that be enough? We simply need to beat Sunderland, and i think we will. Watched Norwich the other day, and they leave so much space for opposing attacking players that i think we will see a similar result to our league cup game.

Ive been thinking that! More twists and turns to come.

One thing is for sure, that game will tell us a lot about how much progress we have made. It will tell us all we need to know.

I think the only stats that matter is the current table and the for and against columns, or should we ignore that aswell? If you read my next post I'm sure you'll find your answer. It does help sometimes

Good point.

Not true. Fergie was having a right tantrum with his team during the second half, and its why he subbed Rooney. When you go in 3-0 up at half time, you are actually thinking game over and job done, so its difficult sometimes, to keep that momentum for the second half. Some of thier key players (Rooney) had switched off mentally. Getting tighter to Rooney and filling the midfield just compounded that, since they were finding less space. To assume they were told to take it easy, is plain wrong. Besides, most of us had written this game off beforehand, so its not as if it were unexpected. Sunderland is the game to judge.

I think the only stats that matter is the current table and the for and against columns, or should we ignore that aswell?

I think God will be to busy managing heaven. We need a mere mortal.

Did ok. Start him against Sunderland? Couldent do worse than the others, and adds more security behind a front three. Playing four attackers is brave, but also a touch rash.

I still think hes a winger. I think he thinks hes a winger too. Hes not a defender, and thats pretty obvious.

Ive been thinking that for a while. Though buying defenders that can actually defend would be a start.

Right, now tonights game has gone, we can now concentrate on the games that will save our season starting with Sunderland. Forget tonight, the real game is next monday.

We get hammered here, we are gone

Once we find out who he is, then we can answer that question.

Im sure he was being linked in a move to the states earlier in the year? Think that would suit him.

But BOF, is that taking into account other teams strengthening? I agree that the foundations are being made, but we must not fall into the mistake of kidding ourselves that we will be fine. Those foundations need building on, otherwise we may have a case of constructive collapse at some point in the season. We all know where any strengthening has to be, so lets hope its not neglected because the powers that be, believe their new found strategy has succeeded because we managed to escape relegation by the skin of our teeth!

Agreed. However, we will still need to bring in some experience and guile at the back and middle, then its a case of filling out the squad. Lessons have hopefully been learnt and taken on board.

Anything similar next term is just not acceptable. I expect a busy summer, or heads need to roll.

If we are all worried about Wigan, then maybe we should go down Dont dismiss the effect the Cup final will have on them because its the biggest thing that has happened to Wigan.....ever!!! Players will not want to miss out through injury, the prestige and pressure of that final will be on their minds all the time. They are not a top six club with a big squad. That Final will engulf everything, just watch!

I think it could be improved. One way of doing that, is reverting the north stand lower back to away fans. Knock the ticket prices down in the Holte, and get those fans back in there. Weve basicly split our vocal support, which is ok when your doing well, but when your struggling? Holte is a like a morgue at times. I'd like to see cheap seats in the Upper Trinity too - let something form up there. That would upset quite a few lol Ive tried singing up there, and been looked upon as an alien! North upper and HDE are far worse in my experience, but its hard to get any atmosphere going when your struggling, and thats the same everywhere.

Having been in there a few times myself, i do understand why

I think it could be improved. One way of doing that, is reverting the north stand lower back to away fans. Knock the ticket prices down in the Holte, and get those fans back in there. Weve basicly split our vocal support, which is ok when your doing well, but when your struggling? Holte is a like a morgue at times.

Apparently. Im sorry my defending has been shit in games, but im usually pissed and queing for a pie ten minutes befre half time, hence why i go missing at times