what you need to consider aswell is that ok we might have blues baggies and wolves to contend with and also Coventry down the road plus the east midlands clubs but these clubs are hardly huge, only wolves and forest I consider big ish clubs the others are medium sized, then you go up north and look what everton have to contend with, they share a city with one of europes biggest clubs and also have man utd and man city next door, plus all the other Lancashire clubs like Bolton Blackburn etc etc, man city also have done very well in terms of their support as up until now they aint been very successful but still got huge support, London clubs will always do well because of the huge population, the north east clubs obviously get big support as their aint to many clubs up that area plus its secluded from the rest of the country and other than football their aint to much else up their, we did not sell out last year at spurs,chelsea,everton,liverpool,man city,newcastle,sunderland, and I don't think man utd sold out and 6 of those teams only gave us the smaller allocation, excuse Chelsea for the price and sunderland and Newcastle for the distance but the others not selling out is really something that cant be excused, ok we were shit last year but to only take just over a thousand to everton and city is poor, and to be fair the distance we have to travel to those places aint that far plus most of them were on Saturdays, for all the fans that cant be arsed to go or cant afford to or cant make it for whatever reason a club our size should have the fans to replace them, on our home attendances we are well known for having 42k one week then the next game having something like 33k, apart from man utd and Liverpool I bet we have the biggest percentage of fair weather fans in the league, I think we sold just over 20k season tickets this year and I just cant see how it aint more like 30k, I know we aint really done much of late but surely this huge name of English football can do better than that, but like a lot of villa fans know all this what ive mentioned has always been the norm at the villa, a wolves fan said to me the other day that if villa got the other 90 percent of their localised fanbase to go games we would fill every ground in the midland such to the extent is our support, I think a lot of teams up north and in London underestimate the numbers which support villa, we have a huge following, maybe we need the success to bring them to the villa