Straggler

I agree. Max and Lewis have ice in the veins. Charles is a wonderful driver and super fast, but can't quite match the mental fortitude IMO. Not to say Charles is weak, it's just the other two are sodding tough competitors, there is no shame in not quite being at that level. I'm not a fan of Max at all, but I have to admire how inevitable his wins are. Once he hits the front you can turn off the telly, the race is run. He won't beat himself, nor will Lewis.

A bit off topic but, on the way back from a match in the train, a few years ago my dad and I were chatting about the state of the team. I can't even remember who was playing up front, but we were discussing how bad our strikers were, which led to a comment along the lines of, "at least they are not as bad as Tony Cascarino" and then a fairly lengthy discussion about if he would be in the all time worst villa 11. To be fair we had decided he didn't quite make the team when I noticed he was in the seat infront of my dad.

Not the point I was making at all. I was simply pointing out that one person who has changed their mind was criticising the other for changing their mind. It is the hypocrisy of the pair of them I find ridiculous. I totally agree with the idea of changing your mind as new evidence becomes available. That they are both pointing at the other and presenting changing opinions as a weakness is stupid as they hurl stones from their glass houses. I would also contend that the reasons that both have for flitting between opinions is more about personal advancement than wanting the best thing for the country, but that is another conversation.

Rishi is being accused of making a U-turn by people supporting ex Liberal democrat, remain voting Truss. I really wish the bar wasn't so low.

I totally agree, but how on earth do they not realise the contradiction? It's not like this is cracking the Higgs Bosun, it's a straight line of logic that is so plainly obvious that to not see it takes an effort of considerable will. The day May drew her red lines, it was an impossible/contradictory ask. I remember my WTF thoughts at the time, yet on they stumbled into the inevitable failure. Thanos will have to be downgraded to "reasonably probable" in the face of the inevitable failure of Brexit. How do people who fell for this nonsense and still continue to support it manage to make a living? I don't see how people can manage a household budget or raise a child if you are willing to buy every bag of magic beans that is waved under your nose. It's - I want to have an athletic body, but live on Pringles and Dairy Milk, I want to do a space walk but don't want the helmet, it's bitching about not winning a prize in a competition I didn't enter. Sorry I'm just venting now, but FFS saying you want to end freedom of movement then being pissed off/surprised that we are not free to move too is so freaking dumb. I don't get how this wasn't obvious before the vote, I'm struggling even more now with the evidence clogging up our streets and hurting GDP more than the damn pandemic (ONS said that, the people that run the numbers for the fricking govt) how this is still even a question. But here we are and it's so screwed up that even in opposition you can't say out loud that Brexit is crap. No, Labour are going to "make it work". I didn't believe it when Boris said it and I don't believe it when Starmer says it. It is fantasy. The ONS said that every single form of Brexit makes us poorer. Everyone who supports it, supports that basic fact. Bloomin Labour are going on about focusing on growth and making Brexit work, which brings us right back round to completely incompatible agendas again. Ending free movement was point number one in the official govt Brexit Benefits document! The biggest benefit, the headline, the star of the show and somehow enough people thought that it just meant ending freedom of movement for other people. This was of course the same document that had to pad out the benefits with blue passports, imperial measurements and sticking a pic of a crown on your pint glass. So the biggest benefit turns out to be FUBAR, so what do we have left? The sum total of diddly squat and piss all. Seriously, anyone who has not read the Brexit benefits doc, I would recommend it. Like so much that the Tories do, it is a parody in its original form. Brexit BS Above is the first paragraph and contrast that with us burning 10's of thousands of pigs, a broken under resourced NHS, the widest gap in wealth between rich and poor in history, the new high speed rail linking the north and south stopping in the midlands, net zero by 2050 ignored by the 2 candidates vying for the top job, the agricultural trade deal with Australia making our farmers worse off, fishermen going broke because they cannot sell their catches in EU ports and the freedom to regulate in a more proportionate way that works for us meaning serious discussion about removing ourselves from human rights legislation and ending the freedom to protest noisily, and finally we can't get on a ferry to go on holiday because we insisted on more border security. This stuff I can reel off from the top of my head. Brexit benefits my arse. Want to watch the economy bounce? Get in power and promise to rejoin the EU.

The French have a responsibility to the rest of Europe as they have the boarder all these non EU citizens (Brits) are crossing to get into the EU. We have 100% forced them to do additional checks, not just for the French, but as a responsible member of the EU. This one was easy to see pre Brexit, all you had to do is look at what non EU members had to do to travel into the EU. But once again the argument "no, that won't happen to us" won again. It seems the argument now, that it wasn't Brexit that caused this, seems to be doing pretty well too. You have to do some pretty awesome mental gymnastics to go with that logic, but it seems we are getting world-class at deluding ourselves. So predictable and so stupid. Actually, that could be the tag line for Brexit as a process "so predictable and so stupid". We want to take back control of our borders! How dare the French control their own borders! Anyone still peddling Brexit as anything other than an unworkable mess should be ostracized from any responsible position due to a catastrophic lack of judgement.

A definite improvement on what we have seen before

£110 for the pro shirt. For that price, I'd expect it to pull me off at the end of the game, rather than the other way round.

It's crazy, isn't it. People went away and did their research, understood all the processes that were required, and presented them back as the facts. They were then defeated by people whose counterargument was "no, that won't happen".

Even if they show her the door she still won't be able to find it.

1. Accept order. 2. Put goods on truck. 3. Wave goodbye to truck. Made no different if you were sending the goods to Birmingham or Berlin.

"Simple"

This is a thought I have had myself. The Tories simply want to shag a cosplay Thatcher. At least enough of them do to make it a viable strategy as part of a bid to be the next PM. The funnier thing is that the Thatcher fantasists are the hardcore Brexiteers and there is no way in hell she would ever have held a referendum on our membership of the EU. She would probably have campaigned to remain in the event of one. She was a Eurosceptic in that she didn't like the idea of a federal Europe, but no way she would have allowed that to trump the benefit of free trade and no way she would give up all her influence inside the EU in exchange for the somewhat dubious benefits of being outside.

I figured whichever one I pick I'll get a little stick....

Decisions, decisions.

If I had anything to do with the Tories I'd bin it off too. It has done nothing but expose what a poor selection of candidates there are. I think even the Tory members are unhappy with the choices before them.

Well, that is a thing.

Tories actually have a trans MP in their ranks, Jamie Wallis. Don't know how he can stomach working with people who would deny his right to exist.

And like me not asking the Olympics out for a date.

Realistically though, the cons will just say that it is disgusting and naked political theatre by the Labour party using a VONC for their own personal gain. You know. Projecting like MF's.

Oh boy, I had not even considered that! I wouldn't count anything out at this stage, but could you imagine the scenes?

Labour are calling a no confidence vote this week. I think they have to as the Tory's have all but given up actually governing the country as they scramble for the top job. Now we get to watch the Tory's vote that they have confidence in a person that they have very clearly said they have no confidence in and cannot allow to continue. I have no doubt that the confidence vote won't pass, as it only serves the country rather than the personal interests of the conservative part MP's.

Whilst they play to their base with fairy tales and fascism, they seem to think the rest of us can't see what they are doing.

I cheered when Dion headbutted Robbie Savage, so I'm not gonna lob any stones round my glass house.