heystally! Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 By the way, did anyone else notice how Match Of The Day complete glossed over any issue of Villa's performance or problems? They didn't even show the Stephen Ireland substitution, or discuss our overall performance other than the mistakes. Taking the LMAs advice I think. Less focus on managers losing their jobs, more focus on the football. Unfortunately, our football is shit mainly because of the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOne Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I hope we'll lose against Bristol. It's not like we're gonna win the FA Cup anyway. But losing that will make his position closer to becoming untenable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 By the way, did anyone else notice how Match Of The Day complete glossed over any issue of Villa's performance or problems? They didn't even show the Stephen Ireland substitution, or discuss our overall performance other than the mistakes. Taking the LMAs advice I think. Less focus on managers losing their jobs, more focus on the football. Unfortunately, our football is shit mainly because of the manager. Yes i noticed this - no footage of the Ireland substitution and the crowd reaction at all - no footage of people leaving the stadium after 60 minute mark either - which was very strange as was one of the few talking points surely? I dont blame MOTD for not talking about us in studio tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Come on folks, this is the first time in I don't know how many years that we've all been united in our opinion of the managerI do not think that is true There are still some fans that support Mcleish and wish to give him more time. In addition I would just add, get rid of Mcleish then brilliant, he has to go. But the main problem would still be at the club Both have to go for meAt this moment in time I'd guess about 98% of Villa fans want him gone. When have Villa fans ever been that united on a manager?98%? or is that a figure you are making up? The last poll on here had 87% saying they definitely wanted him out. The rest said keep or give more time The fact that the transfer window has now opened and we have beaten Chelsea and picked up other points (or had "better perfroamces" as some feel - not I I may add) recently I would guess that it may still be around 87% or in fact could actually be lowerYeah but that was before the Liverpool game. I honestly believe that if you polled 100 Villa fans at VP on match-day about 5 at most would say they didn't want McLeish out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Come on folks, this is the first time in I don't know how many years that we've all been united in our opinion of the managerI do not think that is true There are still some fans that support Mcleish and wish to give him more time. In addition I would just add, get rid of Mcleish then brilliant, he has to go. But the main problem would still be at the club Both have to go for meAt this moment in time I'd guess about 98% of Villa fans want him gone. When have Villa fans ever been that united on a manager?98%? or is that a figure you are making up? The last poll on here had 87% saying they definitely wanted him out. The rest said keep or give more time The fact that the transfer window has now opened and we have beaten Chelsea and picked up other points (or had "better perfroamces" as some feel - not I I may add) recently I would guess that it may still be around 87% or in fact could actually be lowerYeah but that was before the Liverpool game. I honestly believe that if you polled 100 Villa fans at VP on match-day about 5 at most would say they didn't want McLeish out.So 5%, not the 1 or 2% you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heystally! Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Come on folks, this is the first time in I don't know how many years that we've all been united in our opinion of the managerI do not think that is true There are still some fans that support Mcleish and wish to give him more time. In addition I would just add, get rid of Mcleish then brilliant, he has to go. But the main problem would still be at the club Both have to go for meAt this moment in time I'd guess about 98% of Villa fans want him gone. When have Villa fans ever been that united on a manager?98%? or is that a figure you are making up? The last poll on here had 87% saying they definitely wanted him out. The rest said keep or give more time The fact that the transfer window has now opened and we have beaten Chelsea and picked up other points (or had "better perfroamces" as some feel - not I I may add) recently I would guess that it may still be around 87% or in fact could actually be lowerYeah but that was before the Liverpool game. I honestly believe that if you polled 100 Villa fans at VP on match-day about 5 at most would say they didn't want McLeish out.So 5%, not the 1 or 2% you said. This testimony is changing more often than Luis Suarez's. The racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Oh come on, you're all nitpicking. My point is, Villa fans have not been this united about a manager for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 [ I honestly believe that if you polled 100 Villa fans at VP on match-day about 5 at most would say they didn't want McLeish out. I must have those 5 sitting behind me then as they seem to blame everyone bar McLeish. Does my head in and given the number of spare seats I'm seriously considering moving our season tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 But we are not united Mantis There is a section, and if you say 5% or 13% on a match day that would be (based on 30K attendance) 1500 - 4000 fans, who do not want Mcleish to go. That is just using internet poll as a guide. Most fans who do not use the internet / message boards, do not get worked up or agitated by it and just get on with it regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heystally! Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 McLaren is apparently on his way back to FC Twente. It's got to the stage that I'd actually take Steve McLaren as Villa manager now. 'kin' hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 And there is some fans who just blame MON for everything still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 I think Mclaren is the one manager who may just be worse at this moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 [ I honestly believe that if you polled 100 Villa fans at VP on match-day about 5 at most would say they didn't want McLeish out. I must have those 5 sitting behind me then as they seem to blame everyone bar McLeish. Does my head in and given the number of spare seats I'm seriously considering moving our season tickets.Unlucky. Can't say I've run into any of them myself. Everyone I've met wants him gone, and I'm not a ST holder so I move around the ground quite a bit from game to game. But we are not united Mantis There is a section, and if you say 5% or 13% on a match day that would be (based on 30K attendance) 1500 - 4000 fans, who do not want Mcleish to go. That is just using internet poll as a guide. Most fans who do not use the internet / message boards, do not get worked up or agitated by it and just get on with it regardless.Oh my God. I give up. No offence but you're a nightmare to talk to. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOne Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I think Mclaren is the one manager who may just be worse at this moment Random, but no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 5 wins out of 20 . That is a pretty terrible record all the same. MON has already managed 3 wins out 5 with a lesser squad at Sunderland. Chuck in us losing to Bolton B team in league cup as well . Chelsea game looks like was a complete one-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Off to bed and back to work, so might not be on as much. My last words for now are... **** off McLeish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOne Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 It took him 80 mins to break down struggling League 2 team Hereford and that was at home with Bent. The word awful is a complement to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I hope we'll lose against Bristol. It's not like we're gonna win the FA Cup anyway. But losing that will make his position closer to becoming untenable. I understand your thinking, but personally I would never wish a loss on Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I honesty don't know where I stand on this one. I want us to win, but at the same time I feel that there needs to be something drastic for people to wake up. Most Villa fans obviously know what he's about, but it seems like the media aren't picking up on it. It's alarming how many football fans that aren't Villa fans think he's doing an alright job. He's just not under enough pressure at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Went to the game today & well... erm! That was basically football suicide was it not?! Shocking performance but then what the heck do we expect when we gift a goal within 4 minutes of each half to a side with a very good defence?!... before today swansea had won 0, drawn 3 and lost 6 of their away games, scoring just 6 and conceding 19 they are the worst away team in the league and yet with mcleish's anti-football we cant even score let alone get any points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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