ahamaad Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 If he left I know at least 4 or 5 fans that would buy season tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daholteend Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 S-U-S , 5000 might be massively under the true number. There are probably 5000 fans alone who go to watch the Baggies and/or Walsall rather than give Deadly a penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 HEADLINE: VILLA TAKEOVER COLLAPSING BYLINE: BY NEIL MOXLEY ...... Several deadlines were set by Ellis for the consortium to prove they had the cash, but nothing has been provided to support their claims. Ellis has been voicing his concerns to leading figures in the Villa hierarchy and now it seems the club will remain in limbo until the chairman can find another suitable buyer. ...... It does seem like a re-hash and a general "guess" piece of work, and more of a negotiating stance than anything. "Hi I'm a billionaire and want to pay you £64m" "Show me the money" "I'm a billionaire, I don't carry small change around with me, will you take a cheque?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteThornWalk Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 John Wragg has a very similiar piece (only bigger) in this mornings Espress. Dosen't seem to be online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCinSpain Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Doug is remaining true to form. Continually confusing the fans with conflicting reports being dribbled out by his mouthpieces. The one thing he's said that you can believe is, "I'll only leave Villa Park in a box". Don't like to say it, but in his case, I'll make an exception, please let it be soon. He's never going to voluntarily give up the ego trip he gets from being in control at B6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NibblyPig Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 John Wragg has a very similiar piece (only bigger) in this mornings Espress. Dosen't seem to be online. In the Espress? Oh. I'll just wait for the Latte Night News. So, I'm not going to trawl through 30-odd pages of posts... but I think blandy's first line summed it up for me: nobody on here really knows anything. Let's wait for some substantial information to come out before the champagne corks get popped... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 This is just rehashed from old news and made up bollocks. Its true that no-one knows whats happening, but I would utterly amazed if the Comers didn't have the money to buy us, which is the basis of this new shit story. Why would they not make it clear that they have the funds? Absolute bollocks imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonrx Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Of course its bollocks, if they don't have the money then why would they have spent 3 months going through this process? Why bid more money than you have? Until either Doug or Neville come out and say something themselves, then you can't believe what you read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Lack of funds for a takeover is an excuse that Ellis has used before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villagaz Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 This is just rehashed from old news and made up bollocks. Its true that no-one knows whats happening, but I would utterly amazed if the Comers didn't have the money to buy us, which is the basis of this new shit story. Why would they not make it clear that they have the funds? Absolute bollocks imo. I keep hearing it's at "Due diligence" stage, it must be close now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonBurgundy Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 man i could chew my own hand off in frustration at this whole process. one things for sure, if this thing does collapse i'll have just two stumps where my hands were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCinSpain Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 This is just rehashed from old news and made up bollocks. Its true that no-one knows whats happening, but I would utterly amazed if the Comers didn't have the money to buy us, which is the basis of this new shit story. Why would they not make it clear that they have the funds? Absolute bollocks imo. True Bob, the fans don't know what's happening and the press are doing their usual, print any rubbish to fill a space. However, I've never been able to accept that Ellis will sell voluntarily. At his age what does another great wedge of cash provide that he's not already got or could have? Being the Big Wheel at Villa Park is all that interests him and I don't believe he's going to give that up. Compare that to Pompey where Mandaric has the club at heart and is welcoming the Russian's investment, and I'm sure an eventual takeover. All this being achived in a very short time scale because Mandaric is the very opposite to Ellis, he wants the best for the club. I know the takeover scenarios are not a like with like comparison, but if Ellis was a willing participant, it wouldn't be taking this long. :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteThornWalk Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Being the Big Wheel at Villa Park is all that interests him You only have to glance through his latest book (some fecker gave it to me as a work kris kindle present) to realise this & not money is what it's all about for Ellis. He even goes so far as to mention that a previous failed takeover looked like a very good deal, not because it would have provided the club with a cash injection, but because it would have offered him a continued place on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent_Bob Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 I think the key question is: Has Ellis realised that he no longer represent any future for Aston Villa? I think he has. But I don't think the Comers are knights in shining white armour willing to throw money at the club, expecting nothing in return. I'm even starting to question if they in fact have very much money to throw at all. They are reported to be self made billionares, but are they really? And if they are, they haven't become billionares by throwing money around. So it might not only be Ellis that is holding up the deal atm. Mr Neville has said that Champions League football should be achievable in a three year period. Of course that's what we all want to hear. But that will require a lot of money. Are the Comers really willing to invest, or do they just want the land and a football club on top of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonBurgundy Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Silent_Bob - that's a sobbering thought, as if January wasn't a sober enough time as it is! I have a nagging thought at the back of my mind that you could be right... i could take new owners who don't 'splash' the cash (as Chelsea), as long as they want to take villa on and upwards and invest more than the current regime. I want new owners who are in it for the long term and for Villa's best interests. I hope they prove to be just that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-67 Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Out of curiosity I have just had a look at the London Stock exchange. 39,000 shares have been traded (last 5 trades) including one which says "market trader to market trader including through IDB". Can someone tell me what this means and does it or today's trading having any significance to the press claims this morning please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Fans chief wants takeover clarity Aston Villa Shareholders' Association chairman Jonathan Fear has claimed the current state of uncertainty over the future of the midlands club is "unhealthy for everyone at the club". Villa are still waiting to receive a concrete offer from the Irish consortium fronted by Villa fan Michael Neville and there are reports any possible deal is on the verge of collapse. Fear is calling on both sides - Villa chairman and major shareholder Doug Ellis and Irish property developers the Comer brothers - to make their intentions clear to shareholders. He said: "The club is left in limbo with the way things stand. All the quotes you see regarding a possible takeover appear to be conflicting and confusing. "It would certainly be nice if there was better communication from both parties and they made statements and said what stage the takeover is at. "It would also be nice to hear whether Doug Ellis would welcome other approaches if the current one does not become something concrete. "At the annual general meeting in October Doug claimed he hoped to be in a position to let shareholders know whether the takeover proposals were viable within a month and officially we have heard nothing since. "But it would be good if this current situation was resolved one way or the other, sooner rather than later. "This current situation is unhealthy from the point of view of the supporters, shareholders, players, manager etc. "Portsmouth have shown the way to conduct a takeover with everything being virtually signed, sealed and delivered before it became public." Ellis has been reluctant to make any public comment on any takeover bid but privately he is fast approaching the stage when he believes Neville and the Comers should "put up or shut up". this is well said, espically the portsmouth part. look how simple and easy they did it compared to doug and his bollox methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Feck me check internet activity as another website goes into meltdown with anther 5000 page thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteThornWalk Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 espically the portsmouth part Portsmouth aren't a PLC & it's not a takeover, it's more like a cash injection that might eventually become a takeover in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonrx Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 I'm glad someone has come out publicly and said this though. No one really seems to know what is going on, it would be great if someone could say something - LSE rules permitting of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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