Wainy316 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 How much quicker do you think I'd be able to pass in an automatic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 31, 2013 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'll happily drive either, but I prefer driving manual. Don't know why. I'm baffled.I prefer manual because I like driving. An auto does it for you. That's not fun for me. Plus it means you're not getting the most out of the engine. Quite apart from auto being a typically thirstier and more expensive to fix transmission too. It's just expensive laziness and less enjoyable. Unless you need a free hand to drink coffee all the time then I'm not sure why you'd prefer automatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 How much quicker do you think I'd be able to pass in an automatic? You get the biting point within a few lessons like it's 2nd nature. Most of driving is roles of the road and stuff like that anyway. It wouldn't even be that quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) The lad that is being questioned in the Georgia Williams murder lives round the corner from me and has served me in our local petrol station on a number of occasions. Its all a bit creepy, eerie and ultimately very sad. Edited May 31, 2013 by Houlston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Driving for fun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 31, 2013 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2013 Its all a bit creepy, eerie and ultimately very sad.Maybe it could do with a renovation. Y'know the sort, new pumps, a decent shop, larger forecourt and better lighting. Sort it right out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) How much quicker do you think I'd be able to pass in an automatic? You get the biting point within a few lessons like it's 2nd nature. Most of driving is roles of the road and stuff like that anyway. It wouldn't even be that quicker. Changing gears is a chore. Edit: I'm learning driving right now and the instructors insist i change gears all the **** time Edited May 31, 2013 by legov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 31, 2013 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2013 Driving for fun? I think this is where our 'location' comes into the equation legov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 How much quicker do you think I'd be able to pass in an automatic? I'd stick to 30 regardless of transmission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Its all a bit creepy, eerie and ultimately very sad. Maybe it could do with a renovation. Y'know the sort, new pumps, a decent shop, larger forecourt and better lighting. Sort it right out. Nah on that side its decent, the owner is a bit moody mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Perhaps this whole auto vs manual thing depends on what you are driving? I don't mean that in a poncy way (I think). I've mostly driven manuals and they've included everything from 60's convertible to current MPV. The majority are ok, some are good, some are a chore. Anybody that thinks a manual transmission Mazda 323 is fun or responsive hasn't driven many cars. Equally, my current car is an auto, responds to the way I press the accelerator and gets the gears right every time. I've got a little button that can make it respond standard, comfy or sporty, and if I really feel the need, I can knock the gearstick and switch to clutchless manual. If I want to, I can still beat stuff off the lights at a standing start, but in reality, it's very rare I feel the need to exaggerate my cock size now I'm over 22 and no longer driving an Astra. That's not meant as a posers answer, though I appreciate it might read that way. It's just to say the auto vs manual arguement is largely bogus. My auto drives just fine, and I get to drink coffee at junctions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'll happily drive either, but I prefer driving manual. Don't know why. I'm baffled. I prefer manual because I like driving. An auto does it for you. That's not fun for me. Plus it means you're not getting the most out of the engine. Quite apart from auto being a typically thirstier and more expensive to fix transmission too. It's just expensive laziness and less enjoyable. Unless you need a free hand to drink coffee all the time then I'm not sure why you'd prefer automatic. If you were commuting in a busy city or sat on the m6 car park, constantly pushing the clutch in and out and going from 1st and only to 2nd an auto is far far better. With the driving thing I kind of get but your average driver isn't good enough to utilise the gears on a car good enough for it to be beneficial. Your average family, small car wouldnt benefit from a manual much either and most people don't drive fast sports cars, where a manual may be a benefit. But even then many expensive sports cars are fitted with flappy paddle shifts. Manuals are beyond over rated, clutches go far more often than a modern auto box and some manufacturers are now claiming that their auto is more economical than the manual. Driving for fun is a very rare thing now due to traffic congestion and speed cameras everywhere. The manual box will eventually die out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 31, 2013 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2013 Driving for fun is a very rare thing now due to traffic congestion and speed cameras everywhere. The manual box will eventually die out.That's entirely down to location. On my commute I see no traffic and not a single working speed camera (I see a burnt out one). I agree that if I was on a motorway going from 1st gear to 2nd and back to 1st again then auto probably makes more sense but then in that situation a car full stop doesn't make sense. But then if that's all I was doing, I'd probably look for an alternative mode of transport if at all possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I've also just been told that I once sat in a box at the Villa with him and his parents, though I don't remember that, he's also a Wolves fan so don't know why he'd be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) That's not meant as a posers answer, though I appreciate it might read that way. It's just to say the auto vs manual arguement is largely bogus. My auto drives just fine, and I get to drink coffee at junctions. I can drive coffee at junctions too. Why wouldn't I be able to? *drink coffee, even. Edited May 31, 2013 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 jeez, all those things in my list and you pick the coffee reference I was ripping from BOF's post If you can drink coffee whilst changing gear and pulling off from a junction in a manual and retain control of your car, you're a better driver than me and I concede the point happily and gracefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 31, 2013 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2013 I can drive coffee at junctions too. Why wouldn't I be able to?Mustn't. Bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Driving for fun is a very rare thing now due to traffic congestion and speed cameras everywhere. The manual box will eventually die out. That's entirely down to location. On my commute I see no traffic and not a single working speed camera (I see a burnt out one). I agree that if I was on a motorway going from 1st gear to 2nd and back to 1st again then auto probably makes more sense. But then if that's all I was doing, I'd probably look for an alternative mode of transport if at all possible. Yeah I realise that and you're very lucky, in fact I hate you for it ha ha, but I wasn't really aiming the post specifically at you just generalising some points. I was always of the mindset that manual was better but then I got flappy paddles and never looked back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 You're not pulling away at a junction all the time. And anyway after years of driving, the biting point becomes 2nd nature so pulling away (I stay in 1st and keep the clutch down so I don't need to change gear) and retaining control is a piece of piss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 31, 2013 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2013 but then I got flappy paddles and never looked back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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