Dodgyknees Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 40 minutes ago, tomav84 said: funny the criticism always comes from the same groups that harp on about "keeping politics out of football" whenever players take the knee or wear a rainbow armband. edit: i don't care either way. i don't need to wear a poppy to remember or respect my grandad for his service in WW2. i do though, when in the company of my dad cause it means a lot to him And they are the ones who cry that their freedom of choice is constantly impacted. Wonder if they would wear the poppy if it came with a COVID jab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted November 1, 2023 Administrator Share Posted November 1, 2023 This is not the thread to talk about wearing poppies in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Mic09 said: And here is the issue. You want to wear the poppy? fine. You want to wear rainbow shoelaces? Fine. You want to wear a cardboard box over your head? Feel free to do so. And some do! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 2, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 2, 2023 I always think it's a bit of a shame in a way that James McClean is quite so James McClean - he's s representative of a serious point in terms of nationality and culture and the commemoration of militaries by individual nations in multicultural societies - but he's...well...about average, not the best talker. It's a pity he's not the kind of player that has that little bit of charm, that bit of media savvy and presentation - someone who can maybe put forward the broader points of his reasoning in a way that most people would understand as reasonable - it's a shame he's not a better talker - but then, i suppose if he was he'd be a politician rather than a bloke who played a hundred times for Stoke. I wonder for example how Emi Martinez feels about wearing a poppy as an Argentinian, or how his dad feels about him wearing it, or how any number of Irish players do - it's the kind of thing that we ought to perhaps appreciate more - that for some of these nations, solemnly remembering the men that died killing their fathers and grandfathers isn't something we should expect them to blindly go along with. I dunno, it seems to me that for James and others it's a principled decision that's difficult to argue with and that even for the rest of us it should be a matter of choice - if I choose to remember the fallen, I should go out and buy a poppy - when we start taking that choice away and replace it with the collective display, poppies on shirts as a matter of course and so on - then I think that in some ways it's our logic that becomes muddy, and then we blame others for the little glitches in the narrative - James at least retains a certain consistency of spirit. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 9 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: I wonder for example how Emi Martinez feels about wearing a poppy as an Argentinian Look this is a serious point and fair play to you but on the other hand I’m sure Wills will make sure Emi gets the Falklands written into his next contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 3, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 3, 2023 General poppy based chat is in off topic This thread is specific to football player comments on poppies/remembrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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