Joe Hawes Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, Genie said: I signed up using the offer, had a look around and watched some videos but must admit I haven't placed any bets yet. I need to commit a bit of time to get the ball rolling and go from there! Hi Genie, Yeah at first it can seem like it will take forever to learn the ropes and get into it. However to start with just set aside an hour and that should be enough to get you doing the first couple of offers and make some money! After that you will see how its done and see its actually easy to make some quick cash, then you will be trying to find loads of free time to do as much as you can! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Joe Hawes said: Hi Genie, Yeah at first it can seem like it will take forever to learn the ropes and get into it. However to start with just set aside an hour and that should be enough to get you doing the first couple of offers and make some money! After that you will see how its done and see its actually easy to make some quick cash, then you will be trying to find loads of free time to do as much as you can Ok, this example here then. I stick £10 on England (Away) win at odds of 1.93 I lay the England win on Betfair with bet stake of 10.32 (and liability of £9.49) ... If England win I make £19.30 from Marathon but lose my Betfair £10.32 + £9.49 liability = 51p loss If England lose I lose my £10 bet with Marathon but win my betfair £10.32 stake from someone else... So between 51p loss and 32p gain... correct or am I missing something...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Genie said: Ok, this example here then. I stick £10 on England (Away) win at odds of 1.93 I lay the England win on Betfair with bet stake of 10.32 (and liability of £9.49) ... If England win I make £19.30 from Marathon but lose my Betfair £10.32 + £9.49 liability = 51p loss If England lose I lose my £10 bet with Marathon but win my betfair £10.32 stake from someone else... So between 51p loss and 32p gain... correct or am I missing something...? ...actually, thinking about it, If England won i'd be £19.30 up (Marathon) minus the £9.49 liability (Betfair) If England failed to win I'd £10 down from Marathon but £10.32 up from Betfail = +£0.32 either +£9.81 if England win 32p up if they failed to win...... correct?? Edited June 20, 2016 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hawes Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Genie said: Ok, this example here then. I stick £10 on England (Away) win at odds of 1.93 I lay the England win on Betfair with bet stake of 10.32 (and liability of £9.49) ... If England win I make £19.30 from Marathon but lose my Betfair £10.32 + £9.49 liability = 51p loss If England lose I lose my £10 bet with Marathon but win my betfair £10.32 stake from someone else... So between 51p loss and 32p gain... correct or am I missing something...? Yeah, you dont actually gain 32p you will still lose 51p as betfair takes a commission on winning bets, on the main calculator on the website you can click show/hide details and it will show you this in more detail where your money is going/from. 4 hours ago, Genie said: ...actually, thinking about it, If England won i'd be £19.30 up (Marathon) minus the £9.49 liability (Betfair) If England failed to win I'd £10 down from Marathon but £10.32 up from Betfail = +£0.32 either +£9.81 if England win 32p up if they failed to win...... correct?? I think you maybe getting yourself slightly confused here now we all do it at the start not to worry! if england won, then you would lose your £10.32 stake on betfair but win on the bookie meaning you would be down a total 51p as your first post stated which was correct. if england do not win, you win £10.32 in the exchange but they will take a 5% commission from this. you will lose your £10 stake at the bookie, which will result in a 51p loss overall again after the exchange take the commission. Hope that makes sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, Joe Hawes said: Yeah, you dont actually gain 32p you will still lose 51p as betfair takes a commission on winning bets, on the main calculator on the website you can click show/hide details and it will show you this in more detail where your money is going/from. I think you maybe getting yourself slightly confused here now we all do it at the start not to worry! if england won, then you would lose your £10.32 stake on betfair but win on the bookie meaning you would be down a total 51p as your first post stated which was correct. if england do not win, you win £10.32 in the exchange but they will take a 5% commission from this. you will lose your £10 stake at the bookie, which will result in a 51p loss overall again after the exchange take the commission. Hope that makes sense! ...makes me wonder what the point is then? I guess it's all about making on the offers/free bets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hawes Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Genie said: ...makes me wonder what the point is then? I guess it's all about making on the offers/free bets. Thats exactly the point We make all the money from the free bets bookies ALWAYS give out. we use the same method but with a different setting on the calculator when we use the free bets. So because the free bet was not our money we will make a profit regardless! . We have to do the first bets like that and make a small loss sometimes to get the free bet but to make a 51p loss to get a free bet to lock in £15 guaranteed (or whatever the free bet maybe) is very good value. And once you have done it a few times it will not take long to do at all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 12 hours ago, Genie said: ...makes me wonder what the point is then? I guess it's all about making on the offers/free bets. There are loads of bookies, casino's and bingo offers. By the time you have finished them all because you are a member of literally every bookmaker you can do the reload offers or price boost offers etc and casino and games offers. I have only been doing it 3 days and it's really easy. The first couple of days I was a bit slow as I was paranoid about making a balls up, last night I did 3 bookmakers and a bingo site in about 45 mins. From what I can see, once your cash pot is big after all the offers it looks like you can make some very good money on horse racing. That's my plan once all the new offers are done anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfitSquad Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Yup, KVH has got it in 1! Going through the sign-up offers will help you build up a nice pot of money. Once you've done this, you have casino & Bingo to do also. Then you get to do all the "daily" offers that we post to the calendar - here 1 day, gone the next. You'd be surprised how many offers there are on a daily basis, we usually post over 30 per day. Even if you only do the best 2-3 offers each day you would find it virtually impossible not to be making £hundreds every month. And yes, once you have got a really good bank of £1k+ plus you can not-only speed things up by doing more offers at the same time, but you can start doing things like Dutching extra place races where you can easily look to make over £100 in 1 race, just by placing a few bets over 15 minutes (once you are experienced enough to do these bets quickly, of course! It may take a bit longer while you get to grips with it, but it doesn't take long to get the hang of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Its been 12 days since i signed up to the 14 day trial. I've made £200 profit bankable and another £150 profit in progress. The first few bets were taking me 20 mins each, i'm now doing them in 2 minutes max. Last night i signed up to the annual membership - i can see that i should be able to make £100/month long-term, even once the easy sign-up offers are exhausted. I could make more, but i don't plan to spend that much time on it, a few minutes here and there every couple of days. Edited June 21, 2016 by ender4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 My profit has been severely limited by them blocking gambling sites on the office internet, what am I meant to do on my lunch breaks now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sexbelowsound Posted June 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2016 It's actually quite enjoyable as well. It's like the thrill of gambling but without the losing. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Righto, first step taken (Coral offer). Should land me £12 profit for the initial few minutes work... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hawes Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 Ha yeah this is what I like about it! its almost like placing bets you can never lose haha! Good to hear Genie! more you do the quicker they take to do as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 5 hours ago, sexbelowsound said: It's actually quite enjoyable as well. It's like the thrill of gambling but without the losing. It's brilliant. It sounds horrible but I was in the pub earlier and people were screwing cos they lost money on Spain and Czech Republic. I was like "yeah I know I lost on both games too oh well" Little to they know my Betfair balance had just rocketed up at the same time. Tee hee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfitSquad Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 29 minutes ago, KHV said: It's brilliant. It sounds horrible but I was in the pub earlier and people were screwing cos they lost money on Spain and Czech Republic. I was like "yeah I know I lost on both games too oh well" Little to they know my Betfair balance had just rocketed up at the same time. Tee hee It's hard not to be a little smug when that happens. It certainly makes you view the whole betting game differently. This might also be a good moment to point out we have a "Refer A Friend" scheme that earns you £10-35 per member you get to sign up...... in case you see them again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 17 minutes ago, ProfitSquad said: It's hard not to be a little smug when that happens. It certainly makes you view the whole betting game differently. This might also be a good moment to point out we have a "Refer A Friend" scheme that earns you £10-35 per member you get to sign up...... in case you see them again I have the refer a friend scheme firmly locked in my sights. I have already planted the idea with a few people and this weekend I am going to dazzle them with my rapidly growing profit squad spreadsheet which will undoubtedly be the deal clincher. I reckon I could get a few to participate. At the end of the day who doesn't want a large tax free income? It's certainly a no brainer for giving up a little bit of your time on a daily basis IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 It looks like the second offer (Will Hill) is slightly different to the one you mention on your site? Looks like bet £10, get £20 free bet (not £5/£25). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hawes Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Genie said: It looks like the second offer (Will Hill) is slightly different to the one you mention on your site? Looks like bet £10, get £20 free bet (not £5/£25). Could you link me to that? As far as i can see its still bet £25 get £25? Heres the link I have http://www2.williamhill.com/promo-codes/sports-bonus.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 59 minutes ago, Joe Hawes said: Could you link me to that? As far as i can see its still bet £25 get £25? Heres the link I have http://www2.williamhill.com/promo-codes/sports-bonus.html Could be a mobile offer as I was looking on my mobile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hawes Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Genie said: Could be a mobile offer as I was looking on my mobile? Ah yeah this is also a different promo code. You will still be fine with the one on site as long as you use the promo code F25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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