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Just out of interest. Is there a guide anywhere that shows you how to continue making decent profit once the signup bonuses are gone?

I'm looking at the calendar and the offers seem either very low in profit or not completely risk free.

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50 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said:

Just out of interest. Is there a guide anywhere that shows you how to continue making decent profit once the signup bonuses are gone?

I'm looking at the calendar and the offers seem either very low in profit or not completely risk free.

I'm, sure I've seen a link/page called "making money long term" on the website

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2 hours ago, sexbelowsound said:

Just out of interest. Is there a guide anywhere that shows you how to continue making decent profit once the signup bonuses are gone?

I'm looking at the calendar and the offers seem either very low in profit or not completely risk free.

A good tip too is to keep checking your emails, once you are signed up with a few bookies you will be emailed offers on certain days to get you to bet again like money back offers and free bets that may not be listed on profit squad.

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yeah in the training section there are a few lessons on this, showing you how to make decent money long term, and videos of myself going to the calendar and doing a few offers. But yes also check your emails all the time, bookies will send you free bets time to time which are just for you and not an open promo for everyone, so once you have got all the bookies open, I usually make around £50 a month just from locking in the free bets bookies give me because "they missed me and want me back" haha

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9 hours ago, sexbelowsound said:

Yeah i've added a couple of winners from that. I think I need to move onto the horses eventually but don't understand it at all!

Dutching is a piss easy. You just need about £3000 to cover a couple of races! If the race is paying 4 places it's almost certain horses with longer odds will creep in the places, should be able to do £150-£350 a day doing that. I have experimented using much smaller stakes to get the hang of it. The hardest part was filling in the spreadsheet !!

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2 hours ago, KHV said:

Dutching is a piss easy. You just need about £3000 to cover a couple of races! If the race is paying 4 places it's almost certain horses with longer odds will creep in the places, should be able to do £150-£350 a day doing that. I have experimented using much smaller stakes to get the hang of it. The hardest part was filling in the spreadsheet !!

Can you do it on any race?  How do you know which one to pick?

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I've watched the video on how to make a grand a month and whilst I appreciate its a lofty expectation and not one I realistically think will happen I still don't think the life after signup bonuses is clear. 

I'll probably have the majority of signup bonuses done before my month subscription ends. I'm really torn between getting the annual subscription and not due to the uncertainty of where to go from here. I don't like the idea of gambling so I'm not really interested in offers where my winnings will balance out over time but I'll have to lose a few along the way. 

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10 hours ago, ender4 said:

Can you do it on any race?  How do you know which one to pick?

Usually the best races are when bookies are paying an extra place. this will nearly always make a profitable situation for dutching!

 

4 hours ago, sexbelowsound said:

I've watched the video on how to make a grand a month and whilst I appreciate its a lofty expectation and not one I realistically think will happen I still don't think the life after signup bonuses is clear. 

I'll probably have the majority of signup bonuses done before my month subscription ends. I'm really torn between getting the annual subscription and not due to the uncertainty of where to go from here. I don't like the idea of gambling so I'm not really interested in offers where my winnings will balance out over time but I'll have to lose a few along the way. 

Its good to hear the feedback, It may seem like a long road ahead to make 4 figures a month from doing this but it is 100% possible, I always aim to make at least £1,000 a month from betting and I usually only do weekends and major events due to the time taken up running the site etc, but I still manage to make at least £1,000 a month from reload offers and no NCO's. The other benefit to having the annul subscription is there will always be loopholes come up time to time, last year members made £4k each on average some under some made £8k in one night due to a massive loophole with sky casino! (search the facebook forum it has the post about it on there) also a couple months ago William hill had a loophole where members made a killing as well some made around a grand some made six grand, some a few hundred. and the amount the made was only limited by the time they spent on it before it got pulled! Obviously it is completely up to you if you see the value in being a yearly member. Loopholes aside there are always occasions a few times a month some bookies will do a great offer which you can lock in for £20/30 so even if you do them your still going to make around £100 a month from a few mins work, and you wouldn't always know when they are on and who they are with if you wasn't a member. 

 

Also any advice you have from a customers point in how we could improve the life after sign ups lesson etc would be great to hear!

 

Thanks

Joe

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12 hours ago, ender4 said:

Can you do it on any race?  How do you know which one to pick?

Look for a race with a resonable sized field which are  paying out on at least 4 places, favourites only win 33% of the time. The more places paying the better as ideally you want a horse with longer odds to come in the places as this increases your winnings so you have more chances with more places being offered

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KHV it sounds a little like you are experimenting with an idea there, I would just like to state that dutching non-extraplace races are generally speaking NOT +EV and not something that we endorse on the site as being a proven strategy - In fact there is little if any value in covering the whole field if your only reasoning for it being profitable is to hope that an outsider comes top 4, may as well just bet on the outsiders then (which is fine, but not something we deal with) that is more into 'trading' territory.

Also just to point out if you use the dutching spreadsheet we made for extra places, it auto-calculates your stakes to make the payout for coming placed the same regardless of the odds, so you only make a lot more if an outsider WINS, not merely placing. 

Anyway, "Life after sign-ups" is as simple as doing the offers on the calendar every day.

You only have to count the value of the offers posted (and bare in mind half the offers do not carry an exact figure so we state no figure for those) to see that you can easily make over £1k/month - it just requires a £1-2k bank. If you don't have that amount of money yet, it should only take a couple of months to grow £250 into £1500. But generally the more you have the easier it is to make 4 figures. 

Accumulators are another area you can make a profit on if you're looking to make 4 figures each month. It requires you to keep an eye on a few matches so it's not suited to part-timers who can only bet at the weekends for example, but anyone who has 10 minutes per day should be able to make a decent wedge from these when the footy season returns. But again it can lock your betfair funds up for days, so if you want to be doing these ON TOP of the regular calendar offers, you'll be needing that large bank.

Until then though, let's enjoy the racing! Some superb offers up tomorrow on the calendar already :) 

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16 hours ago, ProfitSquad said:

KHV it sounds a little like you are experimenting with an idea there, I would just like to state that dutching non-extraplace races are generally speaking NOT +EV and not something that we endorse on the site as being a proven strategy - In fact there is little if any value in covering the whole field if your only reasoning for it being profitable is to hope that an outsider comes top 4, may as well just bet on the outsiders then (which is fine, but not something we deal with) that is more into 'trading' territory.

Also just to point out if you use the dutching spreadsheet we made for extra places, it auto-calculates your stakes to make the payout for coming placed the same regardless of the odds, so you only make a lot more if an outsider WINS, not merely placing. 

Anyway, "Life after sign-ups" is as simple as doing the offers on the calendar every day.

You only have to count the value of the offers posted (and bare in mind half the offers do not carry an exact figure so we state no figure for those) to see that you can easily make over £1k/month - it just requires a £1-2k bank. If you don't have that amount of money yet, it should only take a couple of months to grow £250 into £1500. But generally the more you have the easier it is to make 4 figures. 

Accumulators are another area you can make a profit on if you're looking to make 4 figures each month. It requires you to keep an eye on a few matches so it's not suited to part-timers who can only bet at the weekends for example, but anyone who has 10 minutes per day should be able to make a decent wedge from these when the footy season returns. But again it can lock your betfair funds up for days, so if you want to be doing these ON TOP of the regular calendar offers, you'll be needing that large bank.

Until then though, let's enjoy the racing! Some superb offers up tomorrow on the calendar already :) 

Yeah, just read my posts back. Thats what I have been doing, I should have made it clear in my original post (oops) The 4 place races I use are offering 4th as the extra spot not 3.

I hope nobody has lost £1500 :blush:

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Ah I see - well yes keep to the Extra Place races for now.

Just to update you, we have tried dutching 2 non-Extra Place races in the last 2 days and locked in a profit on both. Will be posting more info to Profit Squad over the next few weeks once we have narrowed the criteria for how to find the profitable races (without having to check them all!)

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Is it normal for a betting company to ask for Photo ID or Birth Certificate, Proof of address AND a photograph of your bank card?

They've asked me to blank out some numbers but that is a hell of a lot of personal information they now have on me.

This is exactly what Super Lenny's have asked for.

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15 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said:

Is it normal for a betting company to ask for Photo ID or Birth Certificate, Proof of address AND a photograph of your bank card?

They've asked me to blank out some numbers but that is a hell of a lot of personal information they now have on me.

This is exactly what Super Lenny's have asked for.

I've had that before, but only once.

I think I'll give Super Lenny's a miss then.

I've done about 4 or 5 of the new customer offers now, about £80 up I think.

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Just now, Genie said:

I've had that before, but only once.

I think I'll give Super Lenny's a miss then.

I've done about 4 or 5 of the new customer offers now, about £80 up I think.

third company now that's asked for information but never before has it been my bank card.

They always seem to do it once you've qualified for the free bet.

Ive sent them the first two pieces and hope they just ignore the lack of a bank card. I really don't want to give them that information.  

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2 hours ago, sexbelowsound said:

Is it normal for a betting company to ask for Photo ID or Birth Certificate, Proof of address AND a photograph of your bank card?

They've asked me to blank out some numbers but that is a hell of a lot of personal information they now have on me.

This is exactly what Super Lenny's have asked for.

Yes, I had to provide that information to Dafabet. I sent in my driving license, a utility bill, and two photos of my bank card with some of the numbers blanked out on the front and tha back.

It's not really an issue sending in your bank card photo as you have to give them all your card details to make your deposits anyway.

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