Dodgyknees Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) I've just been sat writing down on some paper the players I will have for FM14 (I am at work, but the office is a lonely one...). I was listing how much I could make from player sales, when I started to wonder how much our team is worth in real life? I think we are already worth 5x (in total) what we were last year and players are still improving which adds to value. (I am putting estimated costs, I cannot remember all). Bought for / now worth Guzan: £0m / £15m (is this cheating, do I put previous fee?) Lowton: £1.5m / £4m Bacuna: £1.5m / £3m Bennett: £1.5m / £2m Luna: £1.5m / £3m Vlaar: £3.5m / £3.5m Clark: £0m / £5m Baker: £0m / £4m Okore: £4m / £4m Albrighton: £0m / £1m Tonev: £2m / £2m Delph: £6m / £8m Sylla: £0.5m / £2m El Ahmadi: £2m / £3m Westwood: £1m / £5m Agbonlahor: £0m / £8m Weimann: £0m / £5m Kozak: £4m / £4m Helenius: £1m / £1m Benteke: £5m / £40m Plus we have a few others such as Herd and Steer who are now worth more. Is this proof we are on the way up? Most players have seen a rise on their values (in my opinion) which has to be a good sign? Am I close to possible values or have I under/over-rated some? Edited October 14, 2013 by dodgyknees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I think you're a bit too optimistic at times. IMO: Guzan: £7m Lowton: £2.5m Bacuna: £2m Bennett: £1m Luna: £1.5m Vlaar: £3.5m Clark: £3m Baker: £3m Okore: £4m Albrighton: £0.5m Tonev:£2m Delph:£10m Sylla: £1m El Ahmadi: £2m Westwood: £3m Agbonlahor: £6m Weimann: £8m Kozak: £4m Helenius: £1m Benteke: £30m 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Tonev: 50p Hopefully his value will increase Edited October 14, 2013 by AshVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Way optimistic with a few of those but I have noticed as fans we tend to over value our players. Second list looks about right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepane Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I think what would also be interesting is how much people would rate Hutton, N'Zogbia etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Tonev: 50p Hopefully his value will increase Way optimistic with a few of those but I have noticed as fans we tend to over value our players. Second list looks about right. I'm usually pessimistic, throw me some credit! Edited October 14, 2013 by dodgyknees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 A players worth only what another club is actually willing to pay. It's pretty difficult to know what that would be but the second list seems the more likely IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 14, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Maybe it would be even more credible, if even one player was worth less now than at the time of purchase? My suggestion: Tonev 1 mill. He was better when we only watched YouTube clips and no-one could actually see him play. Edited October 14, 2013 by AVTuco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Maybe it would be even more credible, if even one player was worth less now than at the time of purchase? My suggestion: Tonev 1 mill. He was better when we only watched YouTube clips and no-one could actually see him play. What complete nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Maybe it would be even more credible, if even one player was worth less now than at the time of purchase? My suggestion: Tonev 1 mill. He was better when we only watched YouTube clips and no-one could actually see him play. I think the Tonev value is fair to be honest. I'd rate Ireland at £8m / £0m but he is no longer with us. I guess I can put Given in, I forgot about him - £5m / £0m Other than that our team's value is moving in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 14, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Edit. Edited October 14, 2013 by AVTuco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Imagine how much Delph would be worth if he added goals/assist to his game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 14, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Maybe it would be even more credible, if even one player was worth less now than at the time of purchase? My suggestion: Tonev 1 mill. He was better when we only watched YouTube clips and no-one could actually see him play. I think the Tonev value is fair to be honest. I'd rate Ireland at £8m / £0m but he is no longer with us. I guess I can put Given in, I forgot about him - £5m / £0m Other than that our team's value is moving in the right direction. No doubt. Edited October 14, 2013 by AVTuco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Imagine how much Delph would be worth if he added goals/assist to his game? £15-20m easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Maybe it would be even more credible, if even one player was worth less now than at the time of purchase? My suggestion: Tonev 1 mill. He was better when we only watched YouTube clips and no-one could actually see him play. I think the Tonev value is fair to be honest. I'd rate Ireland at £8m / £0m but he is no longer with us. I guess I can put Given in, I forgot about him - £5m / £0m Other than that our team's value is moving in the right direction. What about Bent? £24m to approx £2m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 14, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 14, 2013 Maybe it would be even more credible, if even one player was worth less now than at the time of purchase? My suggestion: Tonev 1 mill. He was better when we only watched YouTube clips and no-one could actually see him play. I think the Tonev value is fair to be honest. I'd rate Ireland at £8m / £0m but he is no longer with us. I guess I can put Given in, I forgot about him - £5m / £0m Other than that our team's value is moving in the right direction. What about Bent? £24m to approx £2m Yep, he's still our player.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Maybe it would be even more credible, if even one player was worth less now than at the time of purchase? My suggestion: Tonev 1 mill. He was better when we only watched YouTube clips and no-one could actually see him play. I think the Tonev value is fair to be honest. I'd rate Ireland at £8m / £0m but he is no longer with us. I guess I can put Given in, I forgot about him - £5m / £0m Other than that our team's value is moving in the right direction. What about Bent? £24m to approx £2m Yep, he's still our player.... Fair point! Proves my point that we are a team who are on the way up - if we look at those signed under Lambert and those who play a majority of the games. Any player signed previously was on the way down. Edited October 14, 2013 by dodgyknees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Guzan 7.5m Steer 1m Given 500k Baker 3m Vlaar 4m Okore 5m Clark 4m Stevens 500k Bennett 2.5m Luna 2.5m Hutton 2m Lowton 4.5m Westwood 4m Herd 1.5m Sylla 3.5m Bacuna 2m El Ahmadi 2.5m Delph 4m Gardner 1m Allbrighton 750k Nzogbia 5m Tonev 2m Agbonlahor 10m Wiemann 8m Helenius 2m Benteke 25m Bowery 750k Kozak 6m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I don't see how Hutton's value can be 2 mill when no one is willing to spend that on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Hutton's value isn't even 0, he has a negative value because of his wages. Same with Given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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