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When MON left i wrote off the season. Thought it would be a disappointment with us destined for a mid table positon and a gap widening between the top teams and us. MON can take some blame for the situation. However, that is no excuse for the position we find ourselves in. The search for a new manager took far too long and the end esult was obviously a big mistake. Randycan take some blame. Since GH's arrival it has been a disaster. He has dragged us down and down. A manager has to deal with players and the challenges that entails, he has failed. When you are stuck with a group of players you need to get them on side, not cause ruction after ruction. His man management is non existant, his tatics inept. GH entered a bad situation but he has made it a 100 times worse. There is no way we should be in such a low position, there is no way we should be trying to completely rebuild a side in a January transfer window. There is no way he can continue if we lose the next few matches.

Went in August and stopped in Fashino 26 hotel. Right next to Macy's and Madisson Square guardens. 10 min walk to Times Square Subway station within a couple of blocks. Hotel was only opened last year, part of a chain but still quirky, Excellent service, roof top bar, although close to everything, it wasn't barmy outside the front door! Not sure how much it is now but we got a good deal for New York prices.

Not saying it was hit fault at all BUT... the second goal is a perfect demonstration in Downings lack of heart. As Spurs counter attack, he jogs back. As Spurs reach the penalty area he comes to a complete standstill. Sprs pass the ball back and the rest is history. Why wasn't he bursting his lungs to get back? Why does he think its acceptable to just give up?

Embarasing seeing the behaviour of some of the villa fans. Whether we win or lose on the pitch, we should always maintan our dignity. The clearings in the woods who acted like that just drag our club down to the inbreds level.

Not doubting any of that, but it can't be just blamed on injuries. What are we doing on the training ground to sort the defence out? What was our attacking plan - get wide and leave no one on the box. We tapped it around nicely but we were unable to make anything happen. Where was Downing after about the first 10 minutes? When Ireland came on does anyone have any idea of how we were set up? We are in a bad situation at the moment, thank god we have spirited kids who are doing their best. What is worryin is that we still see no sign of a game plan and no attempt to sort the defence out. Houllier hasn't got much to play with but surely he can see that Ashley Young, the best winger i have seen in 20 years at Villa, is ineffective as a second striker, that Bannon is not a right winger, that Dunne and Collins are disasterous together, that L Young is tactically inept. I don't expect us to be blowing teams away, but I'd expect a little more intelligence in our line ups and tactics.

70%?? 8 out of the 11 starters tonight are our main first team players.

How was the second Warnock's fault?

We need Father Christmas to land!!!

Vidic running into the crowd with the already booked Brown Inciting the united fans to run on the pitch as they always do. Total double standards as usual

Like Drogba who didn't even sign a professional contract til he was 21 and still took a few years to show real potential. Nice to write a kid off at such an early stage. And so consistent in your views!

Harry is threatening to refuse to do post match interviews at the end of matches if he gets charged for his comments. As if he could stay away from teh microphone, how else would he start his transfer deals off! Attention seeking whore

I thought Reo Coker's actions were cowardly and could have cost us big time. If he had been sent off we could have been in real trouble at the death. Also, coming back on the pitch at the end to flex his muscles, just being a knob. Its the kind of thing you would expect from Carr or Johnson, not a Villa captain. Hard men play hard, not act like a teenage chav.

If you're going to throw around pathetic insults like that, at least spell it correctly.

You play for a draw when the scores are level!! Total nonsense

That would be extremely harsh Yeah but it's the rules, if a player goes down looking for a pen and the referee believes there is no contact it is a booking. Ref bottled giving the pen imo. If the referee feels the player fell over, he doesn't have to give a yellow card, only if it an obvious dive. For what its worth I think it was a pen, but the ref didn't have a clue which iof the two players commited the foul and he would have had to send one off, much easier to ignore it.

Hi General, Just wondering if the club have any liason with the railway companies. I'd always prefer to leave my car at home and us the train. It is cheap and should be less hassle. However, they can be incredibly frustrating. For some midweek cup games there are no special trains. but there is no way of knowing this until you arrive at the station. Also, often the special train back to Birmingham leaves half empty because it leaves so soon after the final whistle. Then you end up with hundreds of fans waiting half an hour for the next normal service which everyone won't get on and will lead to overcrowding. Are the rail companies so inflexible that they won't consider the chance of injury time at games and the fact that they don't finish exactly at the same time each week. They are guarenteed hundreds of fair paying customers and the reduction of road traffic has got to benefit everyone, if they could just show a little common sense.

With the number of express buses around, a £3.50 daysaver migtht be all you need for the day. About 20 min from airport to Bham, about 40 min to sandwell on a couple of buses. Depends how much of a rush your in.

Not that clearly! To me he spent a lot more of first half on left, in second he went central behind the striker with Bannon on the left!

Look back to p78 and 79 of the thread, i'm sure you could come up with a few more!

I'm catholic and I think the whole thing is a farce. I have no intention of going to see him. Most parishes in Birmingham were given so mnay tickets and ahve struggled to get rid of them, people just aren't interested. In terms of the money, it is pathetic. The church has enough wealth to pay its own way. However, they are not to blame, it was Gordon Brown who instigated it and made it a state visit, all signed off by the queen. The last time the pope visited it wasn't a state visit and the costs to the country were a lot smaller.

Better than Villa fans feel about a manager who ditched them without prior notice just days before the season began. And doubtless better than Villa fans feel about a replacement manager who has said that Villa's natural station is somewhere between 7th and 12th place, who has also compared Villa unfavourably with his former club (Liverpool), and who, although apparently appointed as manager, won't actually become manager until some unspecified future date. It may be a step down for you, Monsieur Houllier, but I'm sure Villa fans will take you into their warm embrace anyhow ..... whenever you arrive that is. Mate, this is an other football forum. If you want to express your feelings about the new villa manager, why not pop over to the villa area where you can argue to your hearts desire. This is a thread about spurs and their glorious manager, so if you would like to provide insight into how as a spurs fan you feel about your poor, hard done by, as clean as clean loyal manager expressing his desire to leave you in the future, we would all love to hear it.

OK, 2nd time around, let me answer your question: the answer is "not particularly" and "not any more than the average manager." Why? Because half the bias against him is simply because of his appearance and facial mannerisms - twitching etc- all of which results from a very bad car accident in which his fellow passenger died. But many folk are superficial beings: show em' a bashed up, twitchy face and they'll assume the owner is dodgy. Some of the remaining bias stems from his east end London accent: again the superficial folk fall into easy stereoptypes: think either cockey gangster of popular myth or Del Boy from Only Fools and Horses, or a mixture of both. Finally, most of the remaining bias stems from the Inland Revenue charges against him - over very little money as it happens, especially for someone who is already very rich and continues to earn a big whack every year. A reasonable person might wonder if he could really be bothered to try and con the taxman over peanuts. But the more important point is this: in law he's presumed innocent until proven guilty, and he's been found guilty of precisely nothing as yet. The problem is again with the superficial folk, who assume the opposite: guilty until proven innocent, no smoke without fire and all the rest of the tired old cliches that form the bedrock of their shallow mindss I don't think the reason harry is hated is anything to do with his facial gestures, yes they are easy to throw into insults, but nobody dislikes him for it. Also, the cockney accent, there are loads of cockneys around who aren't hated! He is hated for his rent a quote gob. anybody who is interviewed on his own door stop on xmas day by sky sports has issues. Its the way he openly talks about players from other clubs, slays into his own players, fans , fans of other teams, and always claims to be so hard done by and whiter than white. He seeks attention at all costs but then throws his rattle out of his pram when things don't go as he likes. Without doubt he is his own self publicity machine. Also, does it really matter the size of his inland revenue problems, the fact was that he was caught having payments into off shore accounts. The other thing is the state he leaves clubs in. yes , its the responsibility of the owners, but his transfer record is incredible. his purchases are: West Ham (1994-2001) Adrian Whitbread Don Hutchison Tony Cottee Les Sealey Mark Watson Marc Rieper Marco Boogers Michael Hughes Robbie Slater Stan Lazaridis Peter Shilton Steve Mautone Paulo Futre Steve Jones Florin Raducioiu Richard Hall John Harkes Dani Scott Mean Mark Bowen Paul Kitson John Hartson Steve Lomas Eyal Berkovic David Terrier Craig Forrest Hugo Porfirio Mike Newell Luke Weaver David Unsworth Ian Pearce Andy Impey Samassi Abou Trevor Sinclair Stephen Bywater Marc Keller Shaka Hislop Ian Moore Paulo Alves Bernard Lama Ian Wright Neil Ruddock Javier Margas Gavin Holligan Scott Minto Paolo Di Canio Marc-Vivien Foe Jimmy Bullard Jermain Defoe Paulo Wanchope Stuart Pearce Igor Stimac Gary Charles Daniel Sjolund Omer Riza Ian Feuer Frederic Kanoute Nigel Winterburn Davor Suker Sasa Ilic Rigobert Song Titi Camara Ragnvald Soma Christian Dailly Svetoslav Todorov Hayden Foxe Christian Bassila Darren Peacock Kaba Diawara Hannu Tihinen Sebastien Schemmel Portsmouth (2002-2004) Svetoslav Todorov Eddie Howe Hayden Foxe Matt Taylor Richard Hughes Arjan de Zeeuw Scott Wilson Mark Summerbell Shaka Hislop Carl Robinson Paul Merson Gianluca Festa Lassina Diabate Deon Burton Steve Stone Tim Sherwood Sasa Ilic Vincent Pericard Paul Ritchie Stathos Tavlaridis Markus Heikinnen Yakubu Patrik Berger Boris Zivkovic Teddy Sheringham Harald Wapenaar Dejan Stefanovic Amdy Faye Sebastien Schemmel Pavel Srnicek Eyal Berkovic Richard Duffy Ivica Mornar John Curtis Andy Griffin Jamie Ashdown Alexei Smertin Jason Roberts Petri Pasanen Lomana Lua Lua David Unsworth Aliou Cisse Ricardo Fuller Valery Mezague Diomansy Kamara Southampton (2004-2005) Jamie Redknapp Nigel Quashie Olivier Bernard Kasey Keller Calum Davenport Henri Camara Dennis Wise Darren Powell Ricardo Fuller Tomasz Hajto Djamel Belmadi Kamil Kosowski Marcelo Tejera Portsmouth (2005-2008) Benjani Pedro Mendes Sean Davis Noe Pamarot Dean Kiely Jean-Francois Christophe Wayne Routledge Ognjen Koroman Andres D'Alessandro David Thompson Sol Campbell Nwa*kwo Kanu David James Andy Cole Niko Kranjcar Djimi Traore Lauren Sylvain Distin Hermann Hreidarsson Sulley Muntari Martin Crainie Callum Reynolds Arnold Mvuemba Glen Johnson Manuel Fernandes Rodolph Douala David Nugent John Utaka Papa Bouba Diop Tom Kilbey Lassana Diarra Danijel Subotic Jermain Defoe Glen Little Lucien Aubey Milan Baros Peter Crouch Younes Kaboul Jerome Thomas Ben Sahar Armand Traore Nadir Belhadj Tottenham Hotspur (2008-present) Jermain Defoe Wilson Palacios Carlo Cudicini Pascal Chimbonda Robbie Keane Kyle Naughton Kyle Walker Peter Crouch Sebastien Bassong Niko Kranjcar Jimmy Walker Younes Kaboul Eidur Gudjohnsen Sandro VDV Gallas He's an agents dream! His transfer dealings have probably brought more people to Portsmouth than the entire Portsmouth tourist board have managed in the past decade.

People in the loosest sense of the term.

Rob, I know you have posted your curry recipes on here before, but can't seem to find them! Would love to cook a chicken jalfrezi but never been too successful!

I think this is bound to be covered in another thread, and that we have a amanager who doesn't shout his mouth off about other teams p[layers.