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Not quite 3/4, 2/3. Including inducing both own goals.

If you read my first post i agreed he isn't playing well. He isn't. You seem to think taking a great corner or free kick is easy thats where we disagree. I personally think Young has the best corner delivery in the English game ATM, and we have scored quite a few goals from them over the years. I think until Downing is fit, he is more than worth his place. I dont get the point in singling out 1 player after beating the team who was top of the table, after Young provided the ball for both goals. you have just agreed with what i said all along - he isnt playing well - i dont see why you are taking such exception to me pointing it out! if you look back through these threads for this season it has been said after just about every game - he hasnt played well - and doesnt seem to be getting any better. my opinion is that an out of form player is sometimes best taken out of the team for a couple of games. now that we have ascertained that we actually have the same basic opinion, do you think we can give it a rest and go and celebrate? Erm no you said he was a liability. Thats different to saying he isn't playing well. He is far from a liability. Infact he is still worth his place in the team and one of our most important players. yeah i did, i think he is, you dont, thats fine. I also think you know very little about football.

If you read my first post i agreed he isn't playing well. He isn't. You seem to think taking a great corner or free kick is easy thats where we disagree. I personally think Young has the best corner delivery in the English game ATM, and we have scored quite a few goals from them over the years. I think until Downing is fit, he is more than worth his place. I dont get the point in singling out 1 player after beating the team who was top of the table, after Young provided the ball for both goals. you have just agreed with what i said all along - he isnt playing well - i dont see why you are taking such exception to me pointing it out! if you look back through these threads for this season it has been said after just about every game - he hasnt played well - and doesnt seem to be getting any better. my opinion is that an out of form player is sometimes best taken out of the team for a couple of games. now that we have ascertained that we actually have the same basic opinion, do you think we can give it a rest and go and celebrate? Erm no you said he was a liability. Thats different to saying he isn't playing well. He is far from a liability. Infact he is still worth his place in the team and one of our most important players.

If you read my first post i agreed he isn't playing well. He isn't. You seem to think taking a great corner or free kick is easy thats where we disagree. I personally think Young has the best corner delivery in the English game ATM, and we have scored quite a few goals from them over the years. I think until Downing is fit, he is more than worth his place. I dont get the point in singling out 1 player after beating the team who was top of the table, after Young provided the ball for both goals.

So you dont think that Ash's right boot being involved in 8 out of the 12 goals this season as our most potent weapon, because he's not playing well? Jesus open your eyes will ya. ha ha - open yours - he is only posing a threat from corners, thats IT! we are only scoring goals from corners full stop - and that is because there is fk all service coming in to the forwards from open play - and it is ashs job to provide that service. if we just need someone to swing corners in all game so the centre halves can score all of our goals we may as well bring back sid - get milner to push him around the pitch all game in a wheelchair until we need someone to hit a dead ball! lets drop it eh? you dont see it the same way that i do - or fabio capello for that matter. have a good night out and lets enjoy the win... Ok then Fabio who would you suggest comes in then? I can't wait to here this. I don't know why you're saying that like there couldn't possibly anyone else! We could bring in Albrighton or Delph and Milner can go left or right. Im saying until Downing is fit we have no one who will improve on Young who has played a part in 2/3 of our goals this season whether it be with just the simple are of taking probably the best corner in the game ATM or not. I mean Carew has been our most ineffective player this season yet seems immune from stick. And we have just beaten the team top of the table and some people just want to criticize the player who provided the delivery for both goals. It just baffles me sometimes.

Oh that sounds exciting.

Absolutely immense in the first half. Tired a bit in the second, but by far his best performance in a 4-4-2. He is making me eat my words ATM.

you are absolutely right. someobody who can take a good corner is always going to merit his place in the side... actually our most potent weapon is gabby - he is fast, strong, scares opposition and has scored five goals already this season. ash is contributing very little at the moment (despite his gold plated gift wrapped corners of course) and it is painful to watch. it is not through a lack of effort - that is obvious to anyone who watches him. i'm not the only one saying it, and he has very quickly slid off the england radar at the moment too - i personally think that a couple of games out would do him good - you are welcome to disagree but playing him every week seems to me to be the footballing equivalent of flogging a lame horse. So you dont think that Ash's right boot being involved in 8 out of the 12 goals this season as our most potent weapon, because he's not playing well? Jesus open your eyes will ya. ha ha - open yours - he is only posing a threat from corners, thats IT! we are only scoring goals from corners full stop - and that is because there is fk all service coming in to the forwards from open play - and it is ashs job to provide that service. if we just need someone to swing corners in all game so the centre halves can score all of our goals we may as well bring back sid - get milner to push him around the pitch all game in a wheelchair until we need someone to hit a dead ball! lets drop it eh? you dont see it the same way that i do - or fabio capello for that matter. have a good night out and lets enjoy the win... Ok then Fabio who would you suggest comes in then? I can't wait to here this.

you are absolutely right. someobody who can take a good corner is always going to merit his place in the side... actually our most potent weapon is gabby - he is fast, strong, scares opposition and has scored five goals already this season. ash is contributing very little at the moment (despite his gold plated gift wrapped corners of course) and it is painful to watch. it is not through a lack of effort - that is obvious to anyone who watches him. i'm not the only one saying it, and he has very quickly slid off the england radar at the moment too - i personally think that a couple of games out would do him good - you are welcome to disagree but playing him every week seems to me to be the footballing equivalent of flogging a lame horse. So you dont think that Ash's right boot being involved in 8 out of the 12 goals this season as our most potent weapon, because he's not playing well? Jesus open your eyes will ya.

That liability got 2 assists tracked back and worked really hard. Im becoming a little tetchy with the growing Ash bashing, yes he is hardly on form, but he is still a very important player to the team, and is getting assists when not playing his best. i'm not going to get into an argument with you after such a brilliant result - but ash only got two assists because he was hitting a dead ball with ten yards of empty grass in front of him. i think that he needs to watch a couple of matches from the bench personally because he is in a rut at the moment. that is not bashing him - its the reality. i'm not questioning his effort, desire, ability, dress sense, hairdo or anything else - he is just playing badly at the moment and dropped warnock right in it on more than one occassion today. Nor dpo i want an argument, but ash's corner delivery at the moment is worthy of his place alone. 3/4 of our goals are from set plays at the moment, would you take our most potent weapon out of the team? I would question your football knowledge if you did.

That liability got 2 assists tracked back and worked really hard. Im becoming a little tetchy with the growing Ash bashing, yes he is hardly on form, but he is still a very important player to the team, and is getting assists when not playing his best.

I have a feeling Mr Yeung will provide us with many a laughs in the next few years.

Empire but out of the new ones only Clones didn't make me angry.

I think Petrov can play in a 4-4-2 with the right players, but he is better in a 4-5-1 formation. Also in a 4-4-2 formation he looks **** after 60 mins.

Yeah eve McCann has a vote lol.

Pretty much the same words i used when i saw the starting line up.

My thoughts. Shocking decision. He's still punishing NRC and its cost 1 point at least. Heskey is awful yet is still head boy for MON. It dosen't surpise me we have lost both premiership games when weve gone 4-4-2 with Petrov and Delph in the middle either. Starting the game 442 (delph and Petrov) = 4 goals in 2 games. Staring the game 451 = 1 goal 3 games and 3 wins. And we are still yet to score with Heskey on the pitch.

Ive just got back in after spending an hour and a half on the train with some Pompey inbred tossers. Anyway, 3 points and once again looked pretty comfortable. Friedel - 8. Didn't pull off any amzing saves but looked composed with all the shots straight at him from 25 yards. Cueller - 6. Defensively no problem, he just isn't good enough on the ball IMO. Warnock - 7. I thought he was cought out a couple of times but was still decent. Collins - 9. Im really starting to like this guy. I thought he would be 3rd/4th choice, but he is easily our best defender ATM, and the balls he plays too. Class. Dunne -8. Won almost everything in the air. Milner - 8. Great effort, great penalty, great performance. Petrov - 8. For the first hour he was MOTM, then he tired very quickly. Was almost a passenger for the last 20 mins and one of the reasons why we struggled for that spell. He missed NRC more than anyone. Sidwell - 8. I thought it was his best game for us. Got stuck in and closed down really well. Yes he struggled going forward, but i dont think thats what he is all about. Young - 7. He was crossing so well today, it just annoyed me he didn't just put it in more and alot quicker. Carew - 5. Not at the races today, as bad as ive seen him to be honest. Gabby - 9 MOTM. Im liking the new Gabby. You can tell he loves his new strength. If he keeps playing like this he will score 15 league goals and go to the world cup i guarantee it. He was only quiet when Heskey came on and was moved to the right. Heskey - N/A. Unlucky, seemed up for it. Delph - N/A. It seemed to me that everyone was told not to pass to the lad. Very odd indeed. Good win for MON, good lively crowd, good day out (apart from the train home).

Ive been out with 2 Indian girls i think i had more problems with my own family sadly.

Whats up with Fellaini he seems to have had a severe drop of form.

I remember this time last season Everton fans proper ripping into there team. I said wait they will be up there and i pretty much feel the same this season. But i think the Europa league might be a big distraction.

I wonder if this guy is going?

Capello just clicked the Milner option.

Too right. Although if he keeps improving, I can see it being a while before Young gets a look in. It wouldn't be fair to Beye to drop him if he plays well. I dont think he's all that great to be honest. Alright back up, nothing more.

Great stuff put him straight in.