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Hi General, When you say that MON and Randy get along extremely well, would you class them as friends? Best buds? Would Randy ever have Martin O'Neill and Geraldine over for dinner, or would they go out to the cinema together or anything? Or would they ever go out and have a few too many glasses of pino nino and end up singing the Gabby Agbonlahor song while making their way through the streets of Cleveland, leaning up against each other so as not to fall over? Or am I being silly?

I've been smoking a bit more than usual lately. Sometimes during the daytime even when not drinking. I think I'm close enough to it being out of my control. I was just wondering what percentage of VTers smoked and what ye think of the habit. I'm coming around to the impression that smokers are generally more fun than those who don't. They have a different perspective on life, as they are willing to express to the world that they are not completely in control. Non-smokers can carry on under the impression that they are in control of their actions, when in fact we are all controlled by different cravings and motivations and impulses. Needing to go for a fag is nearly a positive trait in someone as far as I'm concerned, rather than there being any unsociable element to it. Smokers are jokers

Just read some of the hall of fame takeover thread Brought a tear to my eye

THis is not so good

Nina Simone - The best of her. Although its all brilliant

I didn't feel better after the height thread and I definitely don't feel better after this....

How long has it been since you got some? I'm on somewhat of a dry spell. I thought it would be interesting to hear how regularly the average Villa man/woman is getting the ride these days? Edit: If its not too personal a question.....

I don't think its a scam. Its just a pyramid scheme variation. I'd advise you steer clear, but its not dodgy

The game is fine for **** sake Leave it be

Another great point. The game of football does not need alteration.

Eh.. why not? We've managed this long. Maybe you'd prefer to watch a different sport.

^^ (bickster) I agree I enjoy everything about football, from the great play to the controversy which means that no game is ever the same. Why would we instill something which has the potential to dramatically change the game for the worse

double post

Anyway 6 isn't the average. Its about 5 and a half. Will I do another poll?

I'm a bit sensitive about my height, and with all these stories about people being 6ft3 and 18 stone, I'm feeling a bit inadequate. I don't know if this poll has been done before and I'm sorry if it has. I had a 6'5 +, but it seems to have disappeared. If you are 6'5 + and angry about this oversight, I recommend you take it up with the mods. I'm away BOF : Fixed. Probably forgot to click 'add option' to the final choice. yillan: :oops:

What does that even mean? Are there a bunch of tri-legged people running around I haven't noticed or something? Yeah, I'm lost by that one too... Am. Could it be that he average number of legs is somewhere around 1.9999999, considering that some people only have one leg? So then most humans have more legs than the average. That's my reading of it Edit: Wow! People on this board are really intelligent

I don't think they will, but I think this is their best chance they'll have for a bit of time

Brilliant!!

Bickster stamps his authority on an unsuitable thread Edit: Sorry everybody

Which is why I would look at those rules and treaties again and get to the original principles rather than leave it Getting back to those original principles again would involve cutting off our gangrene leg, which is healing slowly. Getting rid of the processes which are in their infancy would grant us some relief, but it would mean we had wasted billions. Imagine the plummeting credibility of the EU institutions then. 'Sorry Cyprus. That's all very nice, unfortunately we've had a change of heart and really us big boys only want to trade with each other from now on. Come back to us in 20 years.'

Winner

We disagree on the regionalism/nationalism score, yet I am in favour of a Global Union. I just don't see it happening prior to any global catastrophe which forces us to 'come together', as the famous song goes. We've tried to take a huge step forward and been kicked back almost to the starting line, where we see posts like this asking whether EU membership is still favourable and Italy apparently on the brink of quitting the Euro.

So a global problem requires national solutions? I don't get it. And you're right. The EU has changed and drastically so. Only I think it has changed for the better. More unity and more solidarity can only be described as a good thing in my book. **** the nation state Unity and solidarity is one thing, but equality? Giving every one in the Europe the same rights, just because they are in Europe? You say why shouldn't the 10 new states be allowed the same concessions as Ireland was 30 years ago? I say the world was different then. We were in from the start and were afforded a long long time to get up to scratch. The 10 new accession states are expected to be on the sma epage within less than ten years. If we're allowing every Tom, Dick and Harry in, why not let in people who really need the influence of a higher power in their country, where's my European and African Union? The European Neighbourhood Policy delivered Unity. It delivered an EU that was safe, while some of those involved were given the carrot of EU membership if they played nice. It seems as if we have taken the carrot out of the oven a bit too soon and the countries are half-baked. The recession, which is getting worse the more we talk about it, has given the new Member states a chance to keep their heads above the water at the expense of the original member states. This is all well and good, but if we are going to help countries keep their head above water at our expense, why not spread the wealth all over the world. Those guys over in Haiti could do with a leg up, while DRC is gasping for air. I say lets hold onto our funds for the next while. You'd never know when we might be stuck ourselves.

The EU is fast becoming an unattractive option. I think they have lost the run of themselves. Trying to get France and Cyprus onto a level playing field was not part of the scheme when it was first brought out. Giving third country nationals residence if they've been an asylum seeker for five years was not part of it. Nursing 10 states to prosperity was not part of it either. It was a trade agreement and a way of ensuring former enemies were now all batting for the same team. I wouldn't leave, but I think in a GLOBAL RECESSION, it should be everyone for themselves. **** Macedonia