Bunnski

The fans are the stupid ones? Get over your "better fan syndrome". I don't think there are many fans that think Lerner has been a poor owner and has left the club on the edge. But that doesn't excuse that as a manager Lambert has not been very good, he has failed to improve HIS players, he has failed to motivate his team, and his tactics on the whole have been terrible. Ok then none of the Villa fans are stupid and I was implying that I'm a better fan than everybody by stating that some Villa fans are short-sighted.... Did Lambert motivate his players when we put that run together at the end of 2012-2013 season to stay up? Did the injuries last year have a major effect on our form? Did he motivate Guzan by dropping Given after 2 games and instilling confidence in him by making him No.1? Has Westwood improved? Has Vlaar improved? Has Delph improved? Plenty of his other players haven't improved and imo this is down to the fact that they aren't capable of improving. This is because we had to shop in a market where the majority of our signings are gambles. You can blame the owner for that and stop expecting the manager to solve everything with one hand tied behind his back!

I voted for 9-12. As it stands we have a decent enough squad when you consider Vlaar is still here and we have Benteke to come back. If we add a quality midfielder and a decent winger/second striker to the squad then we will be in a good position. I'd also like to see a decent left back added to the squad unless Richardson is gonna play there but he seems to be getting used in a more advanced role. 4-3-3 Guzan Hutton - Okore - Vlaar - Richardson(new LB) Westwood (new CM) - Delph N'zogbia Gabby(new winger) Benteke SUBS: Given, Senderos, Bacuna, El Ahmadi, Cole, Weimann, Kozak ______________________________________________________ 4-4-2 Guzan Hutton - Okore - Vlaar - Ricahardson(new LB) Westwood (new CM) - Delph N'zogbia Benteke - Gabby _________________________________________ 3-5-2 Guzan Okore - Vlaar - Senderos Hutton Richardson(new LB) (new CM) - Westwood - Delph Benteke - Gabby Add to that Bent, Grealish, Gardner, Clark, Baker and Robinson and we would have a decent squad. We will be fine!

I wonder if Lambert would like to have Delph and Ron signed onto new contracts? It's a good thing Lerner can rely on the stupidity of alot of supporters and just keep throwing Lambert out to the wolves. I admire Lambert for the job he has done and have total respect for him for staying here as long as he has. It doesn't strike me as a financial decision either and he genuinely cares about the club and the players imo.

If we hadn't of had 3 terrible injuries to 3 important players last year we would of been fine and picked up plenty more points. We just had one set back after another last season and no doubt it had a major effect on our season. We need to bring in a midfielder who can keep the ball, someone like KSY. Then we will have 2 decent passers in midfield and should have more possession. I'd also like us to get a winger/second striker. Weimann would be better off coming on as an impact sub, Gabby also except away from home when we are trying to keep it tight at the back and hit teams on the counter. Lerner needs to offer Ron a decent contract and put up the funds for a couple of quality signings.

I for one will fully support the manager. Booing and turning on the team and staff serves no positive purpose for the club. Lerner is the main cause of whats been going on at the club for the past 4 seasons and any manager would struggle under the circumstances being placed on our manager. At the end of the day it's our club not Lerners, he will be gone eventually but we will be still here living and breathing Aston Villa and I want to be seeing us in the Premiership for many years. No doubt we need a couple of signings and if we get proper quality in the positions needed then we will be fine. Lerner open the cheque book and insure we have the squad to stay up or you will be taking a big hit on your 200m asking price. Although judging by the last few seasons it appears that he is prepared to gamble or is just a complete idiot. The latter is probably closer to the truth and I'll remember his time at the club as shambolic.

He came on for the last 25 mins. He made a good run down the left wing and was played in after some nice skill by Zog, Stevens then played a great ball between their keeper and defenders but nobody got on the end of it. He was kinda caught out for the 4th goal but it was more down to the fact that Zog miscontrolled on the halfway line and gifted them possession while our players were pushed up.

He will probably say the same thing he has been saying all pre-season regardless of wether we win or lose. 'It's all about getting our fitness up'

More performances like this and we are gonna get relegated from the pre-season cup.... Now Keano can step up and rip shreds out of whoever needs it.

Beast of a free kick. haha Villa fans singing were gonna win the league.

We are just treating this as a training session and getting some practice at holding our shape, that's the best I can come up with. I wish that machine in Total Recall was real, then I could erase my memory and head to Mars for a few weeks and get far away from all things Villa for a while.

Good to see Weimann getting back into his defensive midfield role. wtf

He said he is 100% committed to staying and is dtermined to keep Senderos out of the team as it reflects badly on centre backs all around the world when Senderos takes to the pitch.

I really don't understand why we would fly over on the morning of the game. It says to me that we aren't taking this game serious and the players probably think the same. Groningen are way fitter than us but that's no excuse for how shit our backline has been.

Leave Weimann there and smuggle Cherry back with us on the plane

It's all set up for Bacuna to come on and fire in a hat-trick vs his old club.

What a killer ball to out do Baker haha

We have put some nice moves together in the past 15 mins, sorry to be positive lads

Delph gave the ball away. I wouldn't blame Given for the second goal, it was a perfect strike. These already played a couple of games in the uefa cup qualifiers so should be well ahead with their fitness, it'll be a good test win or lose.

Wow what a goal, sign him up

Am glad our goalies are getting all these errors out of the way in pre season

Tbf it's the only position I have hope for Clark in. It also means we will be keeping it tighter at the back which we desperately need to do

4-4-2. Clark LB

Ok we get it. You're right, everybody that got behind the team was suckered by the club into believing the propaganda. We can't form our own opinions about the club and how we want to support the team and rely on press releases to show us the way.........

#avfc @fcgroningen Given Hutton Senderos Baker Clark Westwood Delph Weimann Richardson Agbonlahor © Bent @AVFCOfficial #avfc subs @fcgroningen Guzan Okore Bacuna El Ahmadi N'Zogbia Herd Stevens Gardner Grealish @AVFCOfficial Am guessing its 4-4-2, Clark playing at LB with Richardson playing in front of Delph and Westy or 3-5-2 with Richardson at LB. I'd imagine that's pretty close to our team to the first game of the season with the exception of maybe Zog and Okore who might start and Goose should start also.

If Keane grows his full beard again then all other beards at the club will look like bum fluff.