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and now on the beeb http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36076936 "David Bernstein and Mervyn King have resigned from the Aston Villa board with immediate effect."

Indeed, I'm hoping they've had a proper row over money and are pissed off and will be happy to let everyone know what it was all about to heap pressure on Lerner.

Will be money related, either to the appointment of a manager the football board have lined up and Lerner doesn't authorise the budgets they discussed. Or simply they have realised that Lerner's idea of a realistic budget to get back to the Premier League is another suicide and want no part of it. They've deffo fallen out with Lerner...

Soooo, fundamental issues with I'm guessing a certain Randy Lerner? Amid rumours and speculation that Moyes is interested and the board were waiting on budget news? Possibly an indication of bad budget news from Lerner?

wonder what the fundamental issues are? Budget for Moyes?

Yeah lots of links online confirm it, I actually think it's the deep trouble option.

Still no quotes from the man himself though, so does really have to be filed under speculation.

Yep I'd be surprised if he really is interested that's why I was after a quote, there's a danger that the story he is interested could end up being seen as a fact and then people will be pissed off with the club for not getting Moyes when in reality he didn't want the job. Quotes from him saying he'd love to come and sort us out would be very welcome!

Any quotes from Moyes declaring an interest yet?

Well that's that sorted! I am glad, who's the new fella?

That said, someone who remotely gives a shit about us not getting humiliated every week will be an improvement.

Without being fan owned or at least owned by a pretty large group of very interested individuals, it's the nature of the beast isn't it? Any owner is going ot be a billy big bollox rich clearing in the woods looking for something out of owning us. Getting the right billy big bollox who only gets shits and giggles watching his team play exciting football and winning things judging by the amount of total knob ends who own clubs seems to be near impossible.

Just imagine if that line up wins! We can still stay up with a short little winning run of 5 games, away at old trafford to start the run would give us confidence! *takes another hit off the crack pipe* *cries*

We'll agree to disagree about Garde's abilities but he alienated the first team squad by wanting them to 1. Work hard 2. Calling them out on being lazy and shit. Two things I agree with him about

Massive repeated anal damage for 90 minutes sending us down. HAPPY DAYS LERNER YOU word removed.

The where's randy, invisible man where's wally combo image in the other thread is gold.

Yep I think in the Championship he woudl be good just sat in front of the defence as an outlet for them who can keep the ball. We will be playing sides who give the ball away more than the teams we've been failing against in the prem, so having someone who can keep it is a good thing.

That's still ignoring the fact he probably doesn't want to come and has been asked more than once to do so, I think he was approached/interviewed when we got Garde IIRC, and I'm pretty sure a few appointments before that too. I'd like it to happen, don't get me wrong, I'd like him to come here and be properly backed and build a good squad and turn things around. I just can't see it though, since his Preston days he's always wanted to get to the very top and managing us in the Championship with an owner intent on selling and no massive investment around the corner is not a step on the way to the top. I agree we are a sleeping (well drugged and battered into a coma) giant with huge potential. We are not set up to achieve it any time soon though. As for Garde, he was shafted by circumstance and the men who hired him were got rid of before he was. he will have a great career I'm sure and it was a missed opportunity for the club in January by not backing him. The new manager, working with Lerner is going to have a tough job IMO too. Moyes will know this.

Exactly, £200m for a Championship club that is a total clusterfudge and hasn't played good football, or even just winning football for a long time. Or £110m for a club that has established a good footballing philosophy over the course of years and brought it's project to fruition by cementing it's premier league status just in time for the megabucks to arrive from the new TV deal. Lauded for their playing style or laughed at for being omnishambolic for twice the price a league below. Swansea are massively more attractive than us at the moment.

It's probably not the fans that worry him, it's the fact we'll be in the Championship and that our chairman couldn't give a monkeys, won't invest and wants to sell the club. No point getting angry with this new football board for not appointing Moyes, I strongly doubt he has any intention of coming in our current plight.

Beat me to it

What makes you think they haven't sounded him out and he's said "No thanks, I don't want to go to a club that's for sale and in teh Championship with a 6 year run of asset stripping and under funding and a toxic atmosphere, I'd prefer to go to a top 6 side and try and win something in Europe. Thanks for asking though." Not sure why you think Moyes is so gettable in our current situation.

Personally I don't think how football has changed with the money involved has any bearing on Little's ability to judge a manager. TWENTY (wow so long) years ago people were saying how much money has changed the game and how it's a different era, when clough splashed the cash for Forest people thought the same thing. It's nothing new. What has changed the game is the no back pass to the keeper rule, changes to the offside, 3 points for a win What makes a good coach, and the elements of building a good competitive side have not altered dramatically in TWENTY years, the techniques they use has, the technology they use has. These are technical issues though and are to do with method, as is how you treat a 19 year old multi millionaire as opposed to in the 80s a YTS lad coming through. These are real changes, but if you ask me, take any great manager from the 90s and he would still know how to build a side and what it takes to build a side today.

Well, the new TV deal wasn't a surprise was it? If he genuinely understood that the only way to recoup his cash was to be in the premier league then he could have properly backed Lambert, or Sherwood, or Garde. None of this happened. What makes you think he will realise this now when it is harder to acheive and requires more sustained investment to make it work? I agree that getting Moyes and backing him is one of the best potential solutions. I just don't think that 1. Lerner is going to want to invest and take the risk of not getting promoted having spent a lot of money, seeing as he didn't want to spend in order to ot get us relegated. or 2. That in that situation we will be able to tempt Moyes to come and save us.