Dodgyknees Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Trying not to be positive because every time I am, the club kicks me in the teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 QPR is a must not lose game for us. I still get nervous as **** watching this Villa team. Nothing I see says to me that they really want this. I don't know if it's just me or others think it too but our players just seem so careless with the ball. They seem to almost habitually panic from 60 minutes onwards and just get deeper and deeper and invite the opposition onto us. I was waiting for the inevitable late equaliser or winner for Reading today. Thankfully it didn't come. But, Reading are poor. How many other teams are going to let us off the hook so easily? I can't help but feel this team doesn't have what it takes to survive this battle. I know we have a quality attack but the rest, Guzan apart, leave a lot to be desired. I hope they prove me wrong but with just 3 points from safety I cannot help but see us going down. I don't think they fully understand the amount of effort and care needed or required to get out of this. I hope the prove me wrong but every time I watch them it's like watching a spine chilling movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I was getting on to ask if thinking Sunderland could get pulled into this was crazy. Turns out a lot of us are thinking the same way. How great would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_of_Pongo_Waring Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) The current form table is looking better. http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/form-guide.html If we can keep, or better, this form we'll be ok. Sunderland are looking in trouble with only two points in their last six games. Edited March 9, 2013 by Ghost_of_Pongo_Waring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 As an addition to my previous post, of the remaining fixtures to be played, there are a number of them between those 7 teams, and those 7 teams against top 6 teams. For the most part, you'd expect everyone down the bottom to be beaten by the top 6 teams. It won't happen in every game, but it'll definitely be the case more often than not. That makes the bold games below the key ones, where the bottom teams play each other, since both of them cannot win those games, further reducing the likelihood of the safety mark being as high as 38 points... Manchester City v Wigan Aston Villa v Queens Park Rangers Manchester United v Reading Wigan v Newcastle United Sunderland v Manchester United Arsenal v Reading Manchester City v Newcastle United Southampton v Chelsea Reading v Southampton Manchester City v Wigan Chelsea v Sunderland Queens Park Rangers v Wigan Newcastle United v Sunderland Everton v Queens Park Rangers Sunderland v Everton Manchester United v Aston Villa Aston Villa v Sunderland Wigan v Tottenham Reading v Queens Park Rangers Queens Park Rangers v Arsenal Tottenham v Southampton Arsenal v Wigan Aston Villa v Chelsea Queens Park Rangers v Newcastle United Reading v Manchester City Sunderland v Southampton Newcastle United v Arsenal Tottenham v Sunderland Wigan v Aston Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Plenty more twists and turns to come just look at next weekends games : Villa - QPR Sunderland - Norwich Wigan - Newcastle ManUre - reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I was getting on to ask if thinking Sunderland could get pulled into this was crazy. Turns out a lot of us are thinking the same way. How great would that be? Well, they've got Norwich (H), Man Utd (H), Chelsea (A), Newcastle (A), Everton (H), Villa (A), Stoke (H), Southampton (H) and Spurs (A) left If they get to the Newcastle game having not gotten any wins, which is likely, they'll either have 30 or 31 points. Newcastle would certainly love to do them at St. James', and if they do, then they'll have some tricky games to get themselves safe, given that they'd likely have the same amount of points as Villa and Southampton, both of whom they'd play. If they conspired not to win either of them, they could well find themselves on 32-33 points, relying on getting a win from Everton, Stoke and Spurs. None of which you'd be 100% confident about I think they're the most likely to get dragged into it, and they're realistically in trouble if they lost to Norwich next week, as we'd then be level on points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Sunderland will beat Norwich at home next weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Plenty more twists and turns to come just look at next weekends games : Villa - QPR Sunderland - Norwich Wigan - Newcastle ManUre - reading Dream scenario there is Villa win, Norwich win, draw and Utd win. That'd have it 14: Newcastle P29 Pts 31 15: Sunderland P30 Pts 30 16: Villa P30 Pts 30 17: Southampton P29 Pts 28 (Playing Liverpool at home) 18: Wigan P29 Pts 25 (Game in hand vs. City) 19: Reading P30 Pts 23 20. QPR P30 Pts 23Sunderland will beat Norwich at home next weekend I wouldn't be completely sure about that. More likely to be a 1-1 draw if anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova26 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) Yes they seem to win when they need too (Sunderland) their fans aren't happy with MON at all....how his stock as fallen...a Championship Manager at best now. Edited March 9, 2013 by supernova26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Just need to take care of our own games and let the others **** it up. Must beat QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Yep i agree.. good analysis Pete. I have just looked at it in a different manner by studying everybody's remaining fixtures & trying to best guess the most likely result allowing for the odd freak one here & there. Started this 6 games ago & so far it seems quite close to the mark. I have this as the most likely points tallies Newcastle...46 pts (10 to go) West Ham...44 pts (10 to go) Southampton.42 pts (9 to go) Sunderland 40 pts (9 to go) Norwich.......40 pts (9 to go) Villa.............37 pts (9 to go) Wigan..........36 pts (10 to go) QPR............35 pts (9 to go) Reading.......32 pts (9 to go) Thats if we beat QPR which is a huge "if". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Just need to take care of our own games and let the others **** it up. Must beat QPR. That's it exactly. If we win our games against the other teams in the bottom 7 we'll be safe on 36 points, all the while ensuring the maximum points QPR, Sunderland and Wigan can get is reduced by 3 apiece. Simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Yep i agree.. good analysis Pete. I have just looked at it in a different manner by studying everybody's remaining fixtures & trying to best guess the most likely result allowing for the odd freak one here & there. Started this 6 games ago & so far it seems quite close to the mark. I have this as the most likely points tallies Newcastle...46 pts (10 to go) West Ham...44 pts (10 to go) Southampton.42 pts (9 to go) Sunderland 40 pts (9 to go) Norwich.......40 pts (9 to go) Villa.............37 pts (9 to go) Wigan..........36 pts (10 to go) QPR............35 pts (9 to go) Reading.......32 pts (9 to go) Thats if we beat QPR which is a huge "if". I think you're massively overestimating Newcastle, Southampton and Sunderland there. If we beat QPR next week I'll fancy us to finish ahead of them tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Yep i agree.. good analysis Pete. I have just looked at it in a different manner by studying everybody's remaining fixtures & trying to best guess the most likely result allowing for the odd freak one here & there. Started this 6 games ago & so far it seems quite close to the mark. I have this as the most likely points tallies Newcastle...46 pts (10 to go) West Ham...44 pts (10 to go) Southampton.42 pts (9 to go) Sunderland 40 pts (9 to go) Norwich.......40 pts (9 to go) Villa.............37 pts (9 to go) Wigan..........36 pts (10 to go) QPR............35 pts (9 to go) Reading.......32 pts (9 to go) Thats if we beat QPR which is a huge "if". I think you're massively overestimating Newcastle, Southampton and Sunderland there. If we beat QPR next week I'll fancy us to finish ahead of them tbh I am indeed trying to err on the side of caution a touch but even that only has those teams winning as follows: Newcastle Stoke (h) W Fulham (h) W Sunderland (h) W Plus various draws. Southampton West Ham (h) W WBA (h) W Stoke (h)W Plus various draws Sunderland Norwich (h) W Everton (h) W (just a hunch? Mon seems to get results against Everton) Stoke (h) W Plus a couple of draws Those are the key games for those clubs.. winnable home games, although looking at it i agree i have maybe over estimated Sunderland by a point or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 3 points behind Sunderland. Staying up obviously the priority but MON being exposed for the overrated shit manager he is would be icing on the cake. Sour grapes I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Oliver Holt @OllieHolt22 Liking the guts of this young Villa team. They've had a few horrors but they've got character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 If we stay up we'll do alright next season I reckon 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Dean sturridge on sky reckons its reading wigan and southanptom going down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 amazed everyone has bought into the qpr hype they'll be adrift at the bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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