Maradona10 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Just something to think about how many tackles does Scholes win? Nothing to do with him being foreign just that he's our best midfielder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leevilla Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 thought Makoun played really well today,especially 1st half,just need to find a decent partner for him in the middle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Johnny boy will have to take the bad with the good. And unfortunately today he only made 3 tackles in the entire game of which none were successful. Compare that to 14 made and 11 successful from Petrov. Zero is, quite obviously, not enough from a central midfielder even if his primary job is passing. He did well passing it, as did Stan. J2M just needs to get himself more involved with the breaking up of opposition play and he'll be grand. Interesting stats but matched pretty much what I thought at the game in that Petrov was doing the defensive work far more effectively. In fact someone showed a stat earlier that Petrov made more tackles than Makoun, Clark, Collins and Dunne put together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_D Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Foreign name syndrome. Arm chair fan point of view clearly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Just something to think about how many tackles does Scholes win? Nothing to do with him being foreign just that he's our best midfielder! United have a quality defence to cover it! For all his fancy looking passing what did Makoun actually achieve today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maradona10 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Yes he did look who released the ball to Downing for him to provide the ball for the goal! Unlike Petrov who just slows the whole game down, look at their first goal it came from Stan and Clark pissing about from our own throw in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Just something to think about how many tackles does Scholes win? Nothing to do with him being foreign just that he's our best midfielder! United have a quality defence to cover it! For all his fancy looking passing what did Makoun actually achieve today? If you're being serious, you could say the same about someone like Xavi who is an amazing passer but doesn't create that many, just moves the ball quickly into players in more dangerous areas with range of passing. (Xavi is obviously on another level to anyone else though at this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I'm being perfectly serious. He looks good yes, but in truth he was less effective than a right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 I'm being perfectly serious. He looks good yes, but in truth he was less effective than a right back. Surely a wind up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maradona10 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 You don't make any sense in what your saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I'm being perfectly serious. He looks good yes, but in truth he was less effective than a right back. Well obviously, our right back scored for us and even their right back scored for us! right backs are very effective :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 ^Pwnage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Well, if people will defend his inability to tackle by saying he's not a DM then surely he should he should be scoring or at least creating? He's had two games but people are already saying "he's too good for us", I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maradona10 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Its not about tackling, it's about pressuring and keeping the ball which he does, he plays passes early to players like Downing I.e the first goal!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 We shouldn't need to tackle if we kept possession which he does well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 So in one breath he keeps the ball, in the next he passes early, and you say I don't make sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Well, if people will defend his inability to tackle by saying he's not a DM then surely he should he should be scoring or at least creating? He's had two games but people are already saying "he's too good for us", I don't think so. Xavi doesn't score or create goals but nor is he a DM. Likes of Xabi Alonso isn't a DM who makes lots of tackles etc...but nor does he score or create. The ball needs to get from midfield to attack, that's his job, the attackers and more attacking minded midfielders then score and create with others in the team chipping in once in a while. Likes of Jack Wilshere isn't a DM, but he also rarely scores or creates goals....Scholes is another one. You say he didn't do anything but I'm pretty sure the 1st goal came from him playing the ball wide quickly to Downing to run and cross and then go in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maradona10 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Their the skills he has, the knack of when to keep and when to release it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 So in one breath he keeps the ball, in the next he passes early, and you say I don't make sense! If you play a one/two touch pass to a team-mates. Is that not keeping the ball by passing it early? :? He has the ability to make early passes which is important. I don't mind Petrov holding onto the ball but the problem is, he does almost every time, which slows it down all the time. Need to learn when to release it early and when to hold onto it and wait for the right option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Ultimately, Makouns is 2.5 games into his Villa career. There's going to be a) a settling period and an inability to predict his level of success with any real accuracy until said settling period is over. We've seen glimpses of what we hope he can and we hope he will learn not to do. Swinging the gavel of judgement on him at this point (whether it be pro or con) is a wee bit silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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