Brumerican Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 22 hours ago, Tegis said: 8 points, 8 You have to tank now . There's no immediate future for Denver without a rookie QB contract on the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 14, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Brumerican said: You have to tank now . There's no immediate future for Denver without a rookie QB contract on the books. That, and live with the absolute monstrosity that is the Russel Wilson contract. The dead cap is huuuuge and we dont have space for it. This team will suck (unless miracles happen) until at least 2025 I've been fortunate to root for a, in NFL terms, very successful team for almost 30 years. Time to bite the pillow, hard. https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2023/10/13/23915307/russell-wilson-contract-release-denver-broncos-salary-cap Quote Denver paid Wilson $57 million in 2022 and $28 million in 2023, but using pro-ration and bonuses, they’ve only accounted for $39 million of that $85 million on the cap. When you move on from a player, the difference in money paid vs money accounted for is accelerated onto the current year and called “dead cap” space. For Denver and Wilson, that figure is $46 million. By itself, that would be the largest dead cap number in NFL history. The Falcons had to account for $40.53 million in dead cap when they moved on from Matt Ryan in 2022 followed closely by Aaron Rodgers and his $40.3 million dead cap in 2023. The Packers and Falcons had the cap room to manage that and QBs ready to roll on rookie deals to mitigate it. Denver, on the other hand, is among the teams with the least amount of cap space in 2023 and beyond, and absorbing that dead hit is not really an option. Per Spotrac, Denver is already $19.1 million over the 2024 salary cap. Replacing Wilson’s existing cap hit with the dead cap number would add $32 million to Denver’s 2024 cap number, putting them more than $51 million over the cap. To do that, they would have to convince a team to miraculously trade for their starting quarterback and his large salaries in 2024 and 2025 to the tune of $86 million. To cut Wilson would make the numbers even worse. His 2024 salary ($17 million) and option bonus ($22 million) are fully guaranteed, so they would also need to be accounted for. That’s another $39 million in dead cap space on top of the existing $46 million in dead cap, for an $85 million total dead cap, more than double the largest in NFL history. That is one-third of the total projected salary cap for the 2024 season and for a player not even on your team! For the cap, replacing Wilson’s actual cap hit with that astronomical dead cap number, Denver would be $68.7 million over the 2024 cap. No amount of cap magic or Walmart money could take care of that. They would need to slash and burn the roster, replacing veterans with minimum players. It would be the team from the original Major League movie (or the current Oakland A’s). Perhaps the worst part of the entire situation is that it’s self-inflicted. Wilson had two years left on his deal when he was traded. He had never played a down for them and they still wanted him under contract for seven years to justify their investment. To add insult to injury, the Broncos already made the most obvious move at their disposal. They fired head coach and offensive play-caller Nathaniel Hackett in December of 2022, before he even finished his first season as Wilson’s coach. They replaced him with well-regarded offensive genius Sean Payton. Payton came in during the offseason and absolutely lambasted Hackett’s coaching and the way the team was handled in Wilson’s first year. Now, he’s just the second coach that couldn’t help Wilson. Are they going to jettison that guy for a third coach in three years just to fix the QB? In March 2024 when the NFL league year begins, $37 million of Wilson’s 2025 salary will become fully guaranteed, further extending the madness. They’ll need to wait until 2025 to bite the bullet. If they release him before the 2025 season, his dead cap hit would “only” be $49.6 million, which would actually save Denver $5.8 million on their cap that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 15, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2023 This game will end with Hopkins not getting a flag he deserves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 I will probably watch the first Seahawks game of the season today, woohoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 15, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2023 Why would you fair catch that???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 15, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2023 oouuuff, that was a headshot and a half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 15, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) Malik Willis Edited October 15, 2023 by Tegis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastmix Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) Tell you what, if they're lucky with injuries (or don't use games to rest players), the 49ers could go undefeated. They're by far the most impressive team I've seen this year. And, given who I support, it pains me to say this. Edited October 15, 2023 by Beastmix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 15, 2023 Moderator Share Posted October 15, 2023 0-5 Carolina about to hold the best offence in the league to 15 yards in a quarter. Jeepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 15, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, Beastmix said: Tell you what, if they're lucky with injuries (or don't use games to rest players), the 49ers could go undefeated And thats Trent Williams maybe gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 50 minutes ago, Beastmix said: Tell you what, if they're lucky with injuries (or don't use games to rest players), the 49ers could go undefeated. They're by far the most impressive team I've seen this year. And, given who I support, it pains me to say this. Where do you rank purdy in QBs? Not seen him play yet but seen him creeping up the rankings and he's obviously unbeaten when staying in the field, is he set up in that offence or is he quietly that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastmix Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Where do you rank purdy in QBs? Not seen him play yet but seen him creeping up the rankings and he's obviously unbeaten when staying in the field, is he set up in that offence or is he quietly that good? It's hard to tell because he's working with such a talented bunch of teammates. Seems competent enough though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 15, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Where do you rank purdy in QBs? Not seen him play yet but seen him creeping up the rankings and he's obviously unbeaten when staying in the field, is he set up in that offence or is he quietly that good? He is very TB esq in that there is nothing terribly special, apart from a very smart distribution of the football. Helps that the team is loaded everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 15, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2023 That right tackle in Cleveland is BIG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 15, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2023 Hmm, Browns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 15, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2023 Good mushrooms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 15, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, Tegis said: Hmm, Browns? Getting some zebra help, but the 0 might go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 15, 2023 Moderator Share Posted October 15, 2023 Absolutely on for them now surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 15, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2023 So you can activate an extra QB for the games, Belichick inactivates all the QBs. Watch Jones get hurt in 3-2-1.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 15, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2023 Why did 49ers spike the ball with 9 left? And he missed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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