VillanousOne

The problem is the headline every week is 'young villa defender makes mistake that leads to ******** win' or midfielder I rate Baker highly, along with Lowton and I think Bennett has a future, maybe even Clark - but i still wouldn't rely on those four players week in week out.

yep also can't deny that any defender at any professional level should know that a tackle like that is sheer stupidity. But in fairness there are older more experienced defenders than Baker who have done exactly the same stupid tackles, he may be a clown but he's not alone in the fact.

Agreed. Until this season Baker had made a few cameos - maybe started one or two actual premiership games Bennet - played one prem game for Middlesborough Clark - had a few random starts but mainly as a midfielder Lowton - Never played at this level Vlaar - Never played in the prem Now Lowton and Vlaar have done ok - but don't have the presence to really look after the rest of the defence although you can see Vlaar tries. In any other season under any other manager some of these players would have been blooded gradually, maybe start Baker and Clark in cup games, maybe as defensive cover, just not week in week out. I get the fact that age isn't an issue as Clark certainly should be able to sink or swim now, but when he has sunk badly along with Baker and Bennett he knows he will play the next game as Lambert won't drop him. I realise the Dunne situation has been ridiculously unlucky but the club did not need to sell Collins or Cuellar. Collins has done well at Wham and ok maybe Cuellar hasn't been great at Sunderland but would have still been useful to us. I get buying Sylla in January, but when the next obvious move was to sign a defender on loan we buy Simon Dawkins who has barely played since. I have never seen a season where there has been so many comedy defensive **** ups, yes Dunne and Collins were rubbish at times but not as consistently bad as the clown school we have at the moment.

Are MOTD going to be showing a different Villa match then? Because if he wasn't involved in any moves in the game today how are they going to show them? Watch MOTD you must have missed what I remember. All the players made errors today. Bannan was dispossessed twice, so was Westwood. No need to pick on Bannan. Bannan had an awkward skewed kick that landed at Suarez's feet. Didn't lead to a goal. Westwood didn't track Henderson and that did lead to a goal. No need to pick on Bannan. Bannan this Bannan that. It's like he's the only player on the pitch. You do realise that we are in the Bannan thread? Of course it is going to be Bannan this Bannan that.. He looked good against the 2 worst teams in the league. These were his best performances of the season... I think this speaks volumes as to the level that he actually is. Maybe, but at least he played well against someone - I don't think it really matters who. On paper even on a good day we don't have the defence or midfield to compete with many other teams even if we have the strikers and keeper. But I don't think we should blame just Bannan, but then again in my mind Westwood has done little wrong - although I do feel he is a bit over rated - he doesn't contribute massively in any game although he does the basics well. part of me wants Zog to play more as he adds a bit of quality when not running into cul-de-sacs, but it's hard to see the best system to use him in.

Bannan has looked good in the last few games but today he had a bad one, yes he did some good passes and tracked back well a few times- but floaty crosses and misplaced passes cannot be excused. against Stoke I think we need Delph and Sylla playing as we need all the physical presence we can get against there dirty nasty bunch of players.

Bannan didn't show up and Delph looked much better, but Sylla did ok I thought - we certainly looked worse when he came off. We lost shape completely when Weimann went off and for some reason Bennett stopped going wide. I wish Lambert would give KEA the Ireland treatment, he's so slow and never gets near a player - total waste of **** space. Baker's tackle was ridiculous he didn't get anywhere near the ball, it's like this every game - Clark costs us a goal, Bennett costs us a goal, Baker costs us a goal, Bannan costs us a goal and on and on it goes. I know Vlaar has been culpable aswell but mainly the sort of errors that all defenders make, the others have been pub football.

Liverpool were good enough to win regardless of the defensive **** up but no matter how anyone spins it, it is the fact that Lambert didn't bring in enough strength and experience to the team in the summer or January that will send us down. his gamble has not paid off despite all the promise shown by the players he has brought in

if we were winning it would be 8 mins stoppage time

the subs killed the game enforced or not

we've gone to shite

luck is going for them now

we still make it too easy for the opposition

Exactly this. But we need someone who can pass fwd i.e. Zog or Bannan, Delph and Sylla in midfield would be a sending off waiting to happen.

Yep bizarre. Lambert has wiped millions off Bents sale price. Idiotic Love or hate them Ireland and Bent are now worth peanuts because of Lambert. I've a feeling Stephen and Darren may have had a hand in that as well Stephen quite possible, Darren Bent has don't little other than be Darren Bent which is fine for one manager but not another it seems.

Yep bizarre. Lambert has wiped millions off Bents sale price. Idiotic Love or hate them Ireland and Bent are now worth peanuts because of Lambert.

Given, N'Zogbia, Delph, Dawkins, El Ahmadi, Bowery, Lichaj. wow no players there that can change a game if we are losing, cept Zog at a push

It just depends on which Liverpool turn up, they seem to be awesome one week and dire the next. **** off Chelsea you utter rocket polishers

**** Norwich useless, everytime i have seen them play they have been bollocks - hope they get dragged into the mix. just goes to show we can't rely on others teams to do us favours! The Fat Waiter decided to start with a really weak side vs Saints!

I bet Chelsea's youth team cost more than our senior team.

we certainly lacked a bit of shape and width going forward but got better as the game went on. Grealish looks like the type of creative technically gifted player we are crying out for, only doubt is does he have the build and physical presence? Does he have enough without it? Bannan has looked better of late but he is a case in point of ability that doesn't translate that well on the pitch.

Can we play Grealish v Liverpool!??

CARRUTHERS! **** YES!

Abo has looked half decent also. Robinson reminds me a little of Gabby

Maybe they are both Matt Le Tissier in disguise

is Graham injured? Donacian and Grealish have looked good. Their big centre half looks superb. our players look much smaller than theirs though