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they were saying they didnt know his record... someone ring and tell them it: 07/08: 5 wins from 24 09/10: 13 wins from 38 10/11: 8 wins from 38 11/12: 7 wins from 35.

nah i genuinely think that statement is as close as we're going to get before the end of the season of mcleish's dismissal being confirmed

reading between the lines there from someone who works in communications, mcleish is gone at the end of the season. there was far, far too much focus put on the next 3 games in that, with no talk of supporting the manager beyond that, as you would fully expect from that kind of statement if they were going to. he's definitely gone

we'll draw with bolton, draw with west brom, lose to spurs and beat norwich

jesus i would **** hate benitez to be our manager. it was bad enough having martin o'neill, who i hated long before he got the job with us, but benitez would be another universe of hatred for me. i genuinely cannot stand the guy

the single biggest problem with o'neill's signing was the fact that the vast majority of them left the club for free, after bleeding us for big wages. ive never seen a list of so many players leaving a club for free after being signed for reasonable money and being placed on good contracts. people can blame lerner all they want on that front, but surely NOBODY could have foreseen that 75% of o'neills signings wouldve left the club for nothing.

Agreed and talking to my neighbour who is in football management the inside view was that our next manager would be Moyes. How that morphed into McLeish **** knows. Personally I lost all respect for Lerner when he made that appointment. It just proved to me that he and his monkey Paul Faulkner are completely out of touch with football. Well you reap what you sow and all that.... i genuinely think we panicked with the mcleish hire. we were knocked back by most people we went after due to the lack of budget that wouldve been available, and the fact that so many earners needed to be offloaded. chances are mcleish was the first person who said he'd take the job and we jumped at it after being shot down by so many before him

re mon saying he's never broken a contract... it's probable that he believes lerner broke the contract, leading to constructive dismissal. however if that's the case, mon wouldve been the one who walked its just that in HIS OPINION he didnt break a contract that was already broken

"I think it's a very natural reaction considering I've been gone two years and they've never known my reasons for leaving. I was expecting it and I got it" mon in his post match interview note the bit in bold

moyes was his first choice mcleish was way down the list

if they're not any more, i think they certainly were in the relatively near past

if mon IS in fact interested, we could get top dollar for him. he likes to overspend on average players, and im sure gabby would love the prospect of a 5 year deal on 65k a week or whatever nonsense mon will offer him bite his **** hand off i say gabby is a decent enough player at times, but you could get someone far better for the same wages, or moderately better for less

just passed my canadian driving theory test! god love canada, they're all **** when i get behind the wheel of a car

we probably have enough points to stay up as it is

will they get the 5 more than us they need to pass us though? Unlikely but not impossible. and will blackburn get 8 points more from norwich, spurs, wigan and chelsea than we get from our remaining games? or will bolton get 7 more points from swansea, villa, sunderland, spurs, west brom and stoke than we get from our remaining games? or will wigan get 5 points more from arsenal, fulham, newcastle, blackburn and wolves than we get from our remaining games? because 3 of those 4 things need to happen for us to go down

will they get the 5 more than us they need to pass us though?

you looked stupid then and you look stupid now

im pretty sure randy said no such thing publically

1 point will be enough to keep us up

hence my point that the standard in the premiership is dreadful. if we had 9 more points we'd be 9th, pushing everton for 7th they don't have to be world class hidden gems, they just need to be 2 good signings. there's not a manager in the world who has never made a good signing but bad luck doesnt last forever

we're gonna get murdered tomorrow, but as bicks points out, it doesn't really matter either way

You have to be an incredibly bad team to get relegated from the premier league. We aren't quite that bad yet... But we're getting there Have people finally stopped getting hysterical over relegation yet? Or are some still expecting 3 of the teams below us to have championship winning form for the rest of the season? We're safe. We've been safe since fulham... Before that we were as good as safe since the first day of the season. People around here seriously overestimate the quality of the premier league. Look at how bad we are,and we're no more than 3 wins away from being in the second tier of clubs. We're dreadful, with a dreadful manager, but could very, very easily finish 8th next season with 2 good signings and a touch of luck. And that certainly wouldn't make us a good team, or the standard of the league any better

no, we're not

So now you all know I support two bad teams. When we issue statements/letters to fans its 'bullshit, just to sell STS ' When a Canadian ice hockey team do it its 'great management' this really is comical. given that im the one who posted this one, please point out where i said when we issue statements that it's bs to sell season tickets?

of course its pr. its the very definition of pr, but since when does that make it a bad thing? it's only bad if it's lies and misrepresentation. coming out and saying "yeah, we've been shit. it's unacceptable and we're going to do everything we can with the resources available to ensure this never happens again" i think fans would be happy enough that the club are finally standing up and taking responsibility, and being brave enough to admit that serious mistakes have been made saying nothing just suggests that the club is fine with how things have gone. we might be, this might all fit in with a bigger plan as i mentioned in another thread. minimise expenditure, keep the club in the premiership, bring in reasonably paid hard workers and establish an 8-12th position again before letting mcleish's contract run out and replacing him with someone more adventurous and with more attacking nous to build on the groundwork that's there. im not saying that's what'll happen if we keep mcleish for another 2 years, nor am i saying that i want to keep him for another 2 years, but if that's the plan then it's a reasonable one. let mcleish do what he can on **** all money, build up the coffers, make the team tough to beat on lower wages, then let someone else use the money we've put back in the bank to capitalise