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Nice bit of (typical) revisionist history when referring to Petrov. He was shockingly bad and ineffectual at times in his first season and couldn't last more than 60 mins. He also had some cracking moments. Took him time to adapt.

Errmmm don't think he was. Let's not rewrite history just because of his unfortunate illness. Take a look through the early pages of his thread. Petrov was a marmite player, you either rated him or not until his illness then he became a legend.

Seen a few posts mention the club is rotten to the core and needs over hauling. Do they include (Job for life) Cowans in their assumptions or does he get a pass ? Not a loaded question or dig at anyone just genuinely interested. I like him but he has been part of the set up during these arduous years and maybe it's time to really shake up the whole back room staff and get rid of him and McDonald ? Tin hat ready (PS: VillaChris not sure how/why I'm quoting you, it's unintentional! whatever I do it won't go away.)

He needs to go ASAP I accept that. But people who have seemingly accepted and are sort of embracing the fact we may be relegated whilst wanting Lerner gone, are surely going to be in for a nasty shock. Lerner's task of selling us will become even harder. I very much doubt he will be willing to drop the price tag much lower, as he doesn't HAVE to sell us. Another round of austerity measures will probably be instigated due to drop in revenues. He may even decide to salvage some of his investment through taking out dividends. We could be stuck with each other for a few more seasons.

Good point. What's wrong with us and player development

Why can't we produce consistently good players rather than inconsistent ones ?

Westwoods been playing in the premier league for how long ? Vertout 10 games think he deserves some slack

lets hope the players aren't as excepting of relegation and don't throw the towel in after 14 games like some posters seemed to have done.

Saw enough today to convince me that we could work our way out of this. However its Too many individual mistakes costing us dearly. Until it's mathematically impossible I will keep faith and I urge all villa fans to do the same. The atmosphere at the ground can be dire & toxic the players need the crowd behind them (however shit they are) if we are too stand a chance. Keep the faith UTV !

Sunderland winning Bournemouth drawing = Us further in the brown stuff

Has to go. Simples !

FFS !

Or dare I say instead of? Richards is learning to be a CB whereas it's Okore's natural position. Move Richards to RB and partner Okore with whoever isn't the shittest out of Clark & Lescott. Bring back cissokho & Bennet and I'd be happier about our survival hopes.

Fat Frank and John Terry had quite a few drunken escapades earlier in their careers including this... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/1558855.stm He has been stupid and let us all down but a little perspective is needed here. Let's hope he learns a valuable lesson this afternoon

Not much but we are still here with a fighting chance of staying up. However shit we have been we are still only 5 points adrift with 20 odd games to go. I just don't understand the mindset of people who wouldn't mind to see us relegated just so they can feel better about themselves and the club personally but each to ones own. Take Fulham, Bolton Wigan etc for example no guarantees we would come back up and we could face mid table mediocrity in the championships for years. Or get promoted right away or even relegated to division one. No one knows but yeah I'd rather be battling relegation each season than experience it.

You obviously aren't, but I would rather this shit than the **** championship. But yeah let's get relegated just so you can feel better at the weekend.

If the rumoured £150 million price tag is correct I think considering the infrastructure already in place plus the new TV money is a fair price. if they can't afford that then I don't want them near us. Just check toffee web and see what they think of kenright. They've rumouredly remortgaged Goodison as he is so skint. At least our debt is to Lerner

I meant us being sold has been effected by FFP. Randy has made numerous costly errors but he can't be blamed for everything.

Would people rather Lerner had sold to the Paul Smith group who would have lumbered us with £75 million debt to buy us ? Plus he has been out of football for 8 years... im personally glad he didn't. I feel he is genuine when he says he wants to sell to the right person, and one of the reasons we haven't been sold yet is because the bids haven't met his criteria. FFP really has f^}>€d us over. Hopefully Platini's replacement will see sense.

oops my bad thought Barkley and grealish were closer in age so unfair comparison to make

Barkley vs Grealish = man vs boy hopefully he can fulfill his obvious talent. So far juries out whether he can. If he wants it enough then Garde will hopefully mould him into the player we hope he can be.

Unfair comparison to make in my eyes. This is Deulofeu's 2nd season in English football and 3rd consecutive season of regular first team football. Give the boy chance to adjust to English football, get his fitness up to speed, and have a run of games then he can be judged fairly.

Completely agree. In my head we drew 0-0 with Everton and got spanked 4-0 by Citeh. (Keeps my confidence of survival high that way) Confident we will beat Watford then hopefully build from there.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34818235 Still have faith in him to keep us up. And at least he doesn't react like a spolit child and look like he is about to cry just for effect in reaction to defeat.