Big_John_10

I have no sympathy for woodgate at all, this can be considered karma for the time he and his mate decided to beat up some random asian lad.

Jez try reading, in the arsenal match thread there were people before the game saying how we needed to change to 4-5-1 and after the game there were posts about petrov being poor.

Then why ask the original question if you already knew the answer was 'no'. Seems a strange thing to do. Because these things have been discussed and many people previously have claimed we can't play 4-4-2 and petrov can't play in that system, after another good win and petrov playing well again I wondered with these claims will be put to bed. Didn't think it was that difficult to understand really.

I dunno, ask yourself your the one who mentions it every time we win! haha you should look harder, I think you'll find other posters mention our formation and what we should play and how petrov plays.

Has the whole 4-4-2 with petrov doesn't work been put to bed yet? A good result and keeps us right in the challenge for 4th which some will have you believe we're not in. Well done lads and glad a forward got two goals.

1st half was pretty poor 2nd half was much better and we played some great stuff and should have scored more. sidwell was pretty poor, delph was excellent and the fonz showed some truly awesome touches. Shame albrighton didn't get to play the whole game and shame milner didn't get a rest.

Amazing isn't it? Also he continues to play a formation that doesn't work with a captain who can't play in that formation. Can't believe how weak some people think the prem is.

I see it's the usual VT reaction when we don't win 5-0. Performance wasn't the best but we had the chances to win it. People have complained about tactics and not changing things but our tactics and not changing things gave our top scorer 3 superb chances and he should have scored and we should have won the game. I see some have now said top 4 no chance, does that mean Liverpool drawing rules them out? Man city losing rules them out? Spurs drawing rules them out? Blues for champions league then

I see it's the usual VT reaction when we don't win 5-0. Performance wasn't the best but we had the chances to win it. People have complained about tactics and not changing things but our tactics and not changing things gave our top scorer 3 superb chances and he should have scored and we should have won the game. I see some have now said top 4 no chance, does that mean Liverpool drawing rules them out? Man city losing rules them out? Spurs drawing rules them out? Blues for champions league then

you used to say that MON had an inability to sign a decent defender and surprise the better we do the better quality of defender we sign. I think after another decent season the next striker signed will be a level up than hardwood and heskey. Good premiership goal scorers are not easy to find or sign.

It looked a foul from where I was sitting.

Played well although second half was pretty boring. Delph was excellent first half so it must have been an injury that meant he was subbed. Sidwell and heskey were poor, the Fons did some nice things but still didn't look fully ready yet. NRC had a good game today and even managed a rocket shot. Overall it was a comfortable win.

Played well although second half was pretty boring. Delph was excellent first half so it must have been an injury that meant he was subbed. Sidwell and heskey were poor, the Fons did some nice things but still didn't look fully ready yet. NRC had a good game today and even managed a rocket shot. Overall it was a comfortable win.

Do you think MON and the coaches paid a fortune and with years and years of experience working with football players are stupid? Do you think if Petrov truly was as unfit as you claim that the manager and the professionals working at the club wouldn't notice? Do you not think players have their fitness monitored throughout the season? Do you not think that at bodymoor heath they have technology to know the exact fitness levels of every player? Do you think everyone should have the same opinion as MON? I think it's pretty stupid for someone to assume their opinion is right and MON's is wrong. Especially on a subject such as a players fitness when MON has plenty of staff and technology at his disposal to determine such things. Your the one narrowing it down to just right or wrong by asking stupid questions. Its peoples opinion's its what they think right or wrong, if we all just bow down and agreed with what MON does (like some do) we might as well shut the forum down! There are plenty of things people can have different opinions to and i don't think everyone should agree with MON all the time. However when it comes to something like a players fitness i don't see how anyone can think they know better, MON works with the players every day and as the general said they have state of the art technology now to monitor exactly what players are doing each match and i'm confident the men paid lots of money to be fitness coaches at a premiership club now more about the players fitness levels than someone with a season ticket. Have your opinion, that's all well and good but if you truly believe that yours is right and MON's is wrong when he has all the advantages i've pointed out to help form his then i think that's being a bit stupid.

They may be talented when they arrive, but that soons gets coached out of them. Looks like it's happened to Downing already. Yes it clearly that. I must have dreamed Davies being picked for the england squad Ashley young winning young player of the year. Gabby being picked to play for england Milner being picked for england and gaining rave reviews in the media and pretty much booking his ticket for south africa. Oh and the team actually doing well.

Do you think MON and the coaches paid a fortune and with years and years of experience working with football players are stupid? Do you think if Petrov truly was as unfit as you claim that the manager and the professionals working at the club wouldn't notice? Do you not think players have their fitness monitored throughout the season? Do you not think that at bodymoor heath they have technology to know the exact fitness levels of every player? Do you think everyone should have the same opinion as MON? I think it's pretty stupid for someone to assume their opinion is right and MON's is wrong. Especially on a subject such as a players fitness when MON has plenty of staff and technology at his disposal to determine such things.

Do you think MON and the coaches paid a fortune and with years and years of experience working with football players are stupid? Do you think if Petrov truly was as unfit as you claim that the manager and the professionals working at the club wouldn't notice? Do you not think players have their fitness monitored throughout the season? Do you not think that at bodymoor heath they have technology to know the exact fitness levels of every player?

you were the one who said the last couple of seasons.

So from now on MON should look at results 2 years ago and play the exact formation if we won the game regardless of new players he has purchased or new players the opposition have purchased, yes i'm sure that will work all the time for us. Or are you just picking out 2 games out of 2 seasons worth of football to support your view?

We did. A point today is a must imo. It'll be very hard to get though - and we never seem to perform too well up in Sunderland. Good luck the Villa boys. And fair play to anyone travelling up to watch them on a cold Tuesday night. I'm aware of that, just amazed that after winning some still think what we did was wrong.

Yeah i'm with you also, i mean if we'd done that then we might have actually beat Man U. I'd be delighted with a point today, it will be a tough match but hopefully we can get something from it. Our current team has won 3 games in a row so i see no need to change things unless downing really needs a break. Have to go 2 upfront and take the game to them.

I find it strange how some can't seem to find any enjoyment from it. Even when we win and get fantastic results, there is always something that was wrong. Petrov didn't move 3 yards when he should have or NRC came on 2 minutes and 5 seconds too late.

I dread to think what it would be like if we were actually doing badly.

We just had one of the best results we've had for ages and on here we have a thread where people can moan about the captain, another thread making a poll of who is our worst player and now we can focus on any mistakes the manager makes. Is it any wonder villa fans have this moaning reputation?

I see there are some who don't rate MON who have come on and praised the team so fair play to them. I wonder if barrysboot and tro will come and give credit? Also great timing by sting. What a week to return and carry on moaning like a d$@k. Maybe one day he will be right. 100% record against the top 4, 3rd in the league and semi final of the cup. Proud to have had faith in the manager.