I hear you. Personally, I don’t think there is a single “one game narrative,” but a range of gradations. I don’t see many of us presenting some kind of rock-solid this-is-the-truth idea, and I’m sorry if I sounded insulting. The sudden intensity of arguments against the manager are, granted, perhaps emotionally commensurate with the terrible quality of the loss, but that still doesn’t make them wise as much as emotionally satisfying. I don’t see many VillaTalkers adopting a simple this-or-that paradigm. I think many of us are also just disappointed and a bit shocked (although I have to say, I don’t think Bournemouth is as terrible as most of the people on this board seem to think ) and trying to snap back to supporting our club after a shit weekend?
They are actually pretty much exactly the same. If the records were identical after 21 matches - it would read 6.79 wins, 4.32 draws and 9.88 defeats. So basically we've drawn 1 match that we should have won. Given the small sample size I think that is as good as the same. Win against Everton and Gerrard's becomes slightly better.
However, the point is that Gerrard's record is not better and certainly not significantly better and so he needs to get some results soon otherwise the Board will be asking him some pretty damn serious questions.
At the end of the day neither of those records is good enough.
When I talk about foundations I mean in a coaching sense. I cannot tell you what our identity is or what he’s trying to achieve. But if the midfield is still a problem and you believe it can’t function any better than it is right now, then we have obviously failed in a recruitment sense too?
Correlation =/= causation. Just because we’ve lost plenty of games in which we’ve had less possession than the opposition doesn’t mean we couldn’t build a system within which possession is not the sole aim. Counter attacking is still a thing that works, for example.
Also, for all its faults I simply refuse to accept we can’t construct a midfield system capable of performing against Bournemouth.
I just thought in my head it will just be like Boxing Day but reading this thread has made me realise it’s not that simple. It’s a normal Saturday, not a day that’s a National holiday. Then on top of that it’s going to be around 29 degrees.
It’s going to be carnage isn’t it?
I might put my ticket up for sale.
For a manager to really get where he wants to go it takes time, yes. But when a really good manager takes over a team you can usually see changes pretty quickly.
Looking at some currnent PL managers, when Conte came to Spurs he first had a couple of shaky months but then they were on their way.
Howe at Newcastle started to click after less than two months.
Potter changed Brighton’s style of playing right away, results took a little while to improve but the tactical overhaul was visible from the start.
Vieira also changed his team’s style over a summer and got decent results from day one.
Tuchel fixed Chelsea’s defence in a couple of weeks.
A manager who knows what he’s doing doesn’t need years to implement a style and basic philosophy. He may need money and transfer windows to get things how he wants them, but the direction should be clear from the start.
I think Gerrard really has 9 matches to demonstrate some improvement. Otherwise those stats are going to start looking pretty damning. If we start playing better but results don't quite match then maybe he'll get himself a bit more time. But he's entering the danger zone for sure. Part of my concern with Smith (ignoring just the results) was that I couldn't see what he was trying to do to get better results / performances. Gerrard is in danger of being in the same place. I am still hoping that he's identified the midfielder(s) that brings his plan together and that we'll land that player before the end of the transfer window. If not then I just can't see how we can do what I think he wants us to do with the midfield options we currently have.