thunderball

I agree. There must be a £100m release clause. If there wasn’t, and NSWE wanted to keep Jack the could, even if he wanted to go. I think the club would also state if there wasn’t but they didn’t. Shows Jack doesn’t have the club at heart, it all about personal priorities for him, the second something better came up we went ignoring the Project and promises.

Sounds like it’s done, Percy suggesting a medical next week.

The bastards were still staying in the PL though, only with about £500m additional income per year on top of the Sky money.

Cant keep up!

I'm driving home from the office, when I log in after dinner I expect this topic to be on page 3000

Nots sure if its been on here, but apparently Kevan Grealish has deleted his twitter account.

Exactly, we've seen it before, our Billionaires were meant to stop this kind if thing. I guess if Jack was one of many class player in the squad (like Beckham at Man Utd, Coutinho at Liverpool or Hazard at Chelsea) it woudlnt be as painful or detrimental.

Crazy - if he stays we kick on massively; if he goes we are way down there again kicking around the bottom half again, seemingly destined to be denied our best talent and any chance of improvement every time. Another 5 years, do the owners have the patience....

From Percy's Telegraph article: Villa's owners, Nassef Sawiris and Wes Edens, are targeting a place in European football in years to come and Grealish is the player who they hoped would spearhead their quest. This move from Guardiola now threatens those plans after finally making his much-anticipated move for Grealish, whose association with Villa began at the age of six. Grealish will be 26 in September and is yet to play in European football at club level, which appears to be a major factor in what happens next. He holds his own personal ambitions and will know that a move to the Etihad will guarantee him the Champions League in September. If Grealish does move, which now looks inevitable, there is no doubt that Villa will be very active in trying to ensure Dean Smith can continue progressing.

There can't be a release clause, so you would think they would say no deal at any price but maybe next summer? Annoyingly, Man City put the kybosh on our last charge at top 4 under Learner. Now they are doing it now by taking our best player away. If we sell Jack we are bottom half team next season, its going to take much longer and more money to crack the top 6 even if Buendia fills Jack's boots.

These are the opening shot bids, to unsettle the player and start the ball rolling. No good going in at £40m, you want the player doing your bidding too.

He's clearly available, even if we dont sell Jack he's looks a talent worth buying.

There must be something about winks I have missed. If we are looking at him we’ve done our homework and he going to fulfill a role, it’s won’t be another midfield body as we have plenty.

….or even Gary Tibbs?

I think we can spend a lot more but would need to redress the balance next year (unless we get into Europe). They’ve stretched the loss making period over several years due to COVID

Only slightly more than half of De Bruyne’s £385K p.w. And Jack’s better.

Agree with all of this, Buendia could be exactly what we need. However we would still be better next season with Grealish.

….like Foden?

It would be really unfortunate if he left now of all times. I can’t work out if there is a release clause but assume there isn’t, but even if there was it would be down to the player to move or not, it wouldn’t happen against his will and the club certainly don’t want or need to sell. If there isn’t a release clause, I would fully expect the owners/management to put their foot down and say to Jack the timing isn’t right for the club, lets review next summer. Levy does it, why not us? Or you put an incredible figure down (say £150m and say to Jack, fair enough, this is compensation, you can go). This is actually the most damaging time to leave us barring the relegation fight times - the club has its best chance for at least 20 years to break into the elite end of the game, and frankly stay in it, at that point the door is opened to a greater wealth of talent and his departure would not be as painful, and our owners can fully exploit that opportunity should it arise. He is in a new improved deal and committed to the club and cause stating some very Delph-esque sentiment about his place in the project, his club etc. He is also our Captain, that should mean more to him than most. As an alleged fan he must see that getting us to the CL places is a massive deal for the club and he would be setting us back for personal gain. The worst thing for me is that Man City are utterly classless, and are part of the shameless European Super League set who stuck two fingers up to the whole game. How quickly that is forgotten when money is being waved around. If he goes it will be the bitterest departure of them all, a real mercenary move, and frankly he would be the worst of the lot and even though I never boo departed players (pantomime or heart felt) I would happily boo him when he faces us.

Do we trust him:

Yes, us amongst several other PL team s are “linked”, Ivread that this morning too but think that means very little in this day and age, I certainly haven’t seen it elsewhere since. Quality player, but not sure he is any better off here than there really? watched the Villa TV training clips and Ollie is banging them in left right and centre, think he’s up for a big season this time.

I have to say this transfer window is as of today ugly. Twitter is an absolute cesspool these days - the so called fans piling in/begging/bad mouthing other fans bases around transfers and some of the braini-dead arguments is embarrasing and Villa fans are amongst the worst as as bad as any I can see these days. I think I am just going to keep away until after the window shuts.

Does Jack do it himself or does his 'team'? I am sure his agency carefully controls his social media output, I am sure that like most of the top players. For example I dont for a minute think Rashfords output is all in his own words, its a narrative thought out by his management team and then scripted in a way that sounds as though he might have said it.

Wow, its getting a bit desperate on here! Chances are Sam Lee is likely connected well enough to write his article citing insiders and good ITK's, and what he has written is very likely correct - Personal Terms agreed, Fee in principle agreed. He is also absolutely correct in saying that it might not happen as it down to Jack. Suck it up. My take is there is a deal on the table: likely £300K p.w. (substantially more than Villa's £200K p.w.) and Jack also has the new contract from Villa. His agency will have arranged the deal, thats exactly their job, now Jack needs to come home, ground himself with his family and make a decision about his future and that might take one or two weeks. Its huge personal money (>£80m guaranteed with bonuses over 5 years), silverware and instant CL vs staying where his heart is for the chance of glory in maybe two years. Its likely very difficult, and if he was my son, and I dont like saying it, I would probably tell him to make the move in all honesty, it instantly delivers everything rather than the chance of it. He could easily be the next Beckham and have wealth and accolades beyond his dreams. But I can see its a massive wrench. I really dont know which way it goes but can see it is very much 50/50 at the moment, I dont think who we sign makes any difference, in all honesty none are big enough to really turn your head, but they do paint a picture of progression, but is it enough? My final word is that if it was clear cut it would already be done, so there remains a chance, and also he is young enough to make the move next year for possibly more money especially as he will likely figure much more prominently at the World Cup which might not be lost on his agents.