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So our team of mostly British players don't seem to fancy a wet, windy, cold day at Turf Moor.And nice to see that midfield dynamo Steve Sidwell doing his usual superb impression of the invisible man.Not good enough.

5th, but if we sign a top class midfielder, and goalscorer I'd fancy us for 4th.

Ditto.Couldn't care less. so, you haven't "lost interest" then? You were just never that interested anyway? Fair doo's, but a completely different argument/point. Or if you have "lost interest" at some point, why? Too many years of dissapointment? what would bring the interest back? Villa have had many years of dissapointment IMO, especially since the mid 80s. But I have not "lost interest" in them, and hopefully never will. Losing interest is, IMHO, the easy way out ..... I must qualify my statement, having said I've lost interest, I failed to add that at no time have I really ever been a big England fan, even during the peak of my interest in the mid-late 80's when I was a young lad, I'd watch the games but not really be bothered that much whether England win, lose or draw.Over the years my interest has dwindled particulary during the post 1992 'Sky years' to the extent that now I have no interest at all in the England team.Various reasons mainly, but not exclusive to do with money, The FA, players, media and a section of England 'fans'.In fact my interest has dwindled in football as a whole, with Villa being the exception. Like I've said before, I'd rather the Villa win a corner than England win a match, if that upsets or offends people so be it, I know I'm not the only one with that viewpoint.

Ditto.Couldn't care less.

Voted yes, but I lost my interest in the national team around the early nineties, now I can't stand them.Rather Villa win a corner than Enngerrlluunnddd win a game.

Even the Murdoch press are highlighting the folly of this

Some analysis you wouldn't get on the BBC

No other country in the world has our tradition of a)being obsessed with house prices and b)having the property market as the main driving force in the economy. And yes it will start all over again, proving yet again that as a country, as a people and as an administration we have learnt nothing from what has gone on before. The two great myths about rising house prices are that they are good, and they are fuelled by supply and demand.What they do is create and illusion of wealth leading to debt fuelled excess and cause divisions within society.And Labour, just like the Tories before them have been on the sidelines cheering.Vince Cable has been warning for many years of the problems we face now, most other MP's were too busy with their snouts in the trough to give two shits. We could probably close this thread and re-open in 10+years time.Or maybe it will be different THAT time.

Oh dear, looks like we are in the middle of a hugh crash, good job i didn't listen to Phil and Krusty, the BBC, Fionnuala Earley et al and all the other VI's, spin artists and billy bullshitters throughout the media.All together now:Don't worry it will be different this time, stable economy, low unemployment, low interest rates, supply and demand etc etc...yawn. Hey maybe in 2-4 years when the market bottoms out a whole generation of people may be able to afford a roof over their and their families heads (how selfish), without putting themselves on a treadmill of debt until they die, and having to take out mortagages that border on criminal and totally irresponsible just to get 'on the ladder', purely to benefit those at the top of the property pyramid scheme, like the baby boomers, banks, brokers, estate agents and BTL's to name just a few.

Hi General Only my second post on this thread, and I would like to echo the comments of Pricey1984, and say thanks for the common sense ticket prices for the UEFA Cup game, much appreciated in the current economic climate. Also a bit off topic, but what do you think of Brett Favre going to the New York Jets? As a long-suffering Jets fan I'm surprised and delighted.Do you think the Jets can topple the evil that is the New England Patriots? Keep up the good work.

No, £18 Million cash, or £17 Million+Finnan.No compromise with that filth.

Thatcher once stated that there was no such thing as 'society'.So why should society pay for her funeral? I revile her as much as that other right-wing fruitcake Blair.

I'd rather listen to a bad Clash tribute band than The Police.

Oohhh the "Game of Games" .I want to watch this epic showdown, but unfortunatly I have a more pressing matter to deal with.I'm de-fleaing my cats, which thinking about it will be more interesting and relevant to me. Yawn, couldn't give a flying ****.

For me depends who he returns with: If it were the plastic scouse filth then I would act like he doesn't exist. Anyone else then I would applaud. Shallow and childish? Probably.

Good to see the neanderthals are showing their true colours once again, **** pond life.I was going to say **** off to where you belong, but that would require them being relegated for the next 10 years.Nice to see the biggest club in Birmingham sold out the game..oh they didn't? That's a surprise.

Thanks for the reply General regarding a secure area for bikes, nice to know you have it in mind.

Correct, apologies for my ignorance but explain what, how they can still be higher? YoY will turn negative with Halifax and or Nationwide probably next month.As for 10 years ago approx 180% higher.That is not good for most people or the economy but this has not happened accidently, it has been at the core of this Government's economic policies. Do you think the massive HPI we have seen over the last 10 years is good for the country, if so why?

Telegraph:UK Housing Bubble Bursting And It's Serious

without wanting to steal the Generals thunder, there are bike parking places at the end of the TRS as you walk towards the Villa Village (big hooks on the wall that you would chain your bike to) Fair enough for the above, General. But we're asking about something more secure. God knows what would happen to a bunch of bikes chained up against a wall most of the fans stroll past. These hooks don't really get used probably for this reason, security. Thanks for the heads up, but I agree with maccadooby, it would need to be more secure, i.e in a compound,and/or guarded with either personel or cctv.Are there any plans for security measures like this General?

Saw Mr Brown being interviewed earlier, didn't pay much attention to what he had to say on today's news of falling house prices, but I'm sure in the usual spin he and Darling churn out "Strong fundamentals, low unemployment et al, he mentioned low debt?? Either he is insane or just plain thick. As for Ms Flint on Breakfast news desperatly trying to coax FTB's into a tanking market that is desperation personified. Credit is drying up all the time, personal and collective debt is at an all time high, and sentiment has definatly swung amongst those with no vested interests. Tommorow's Daily Express headline? Either Diana/Maddie/House prices still rising (YoY from 1993).

Seconded.That debacle was the epitome of the media and their fawning over the 'big four'. And we don't have to listen to Clive "That night in Barcelona" Tyldesley every Saturday.clearing in the woods.Appalling programme.

Hi General I'd appreciate it if you could spare a few moments to look at this short article:Arsenal Bike Parking I think I read somewhere that we have an area to leave bikes, but is it secure? I'd be tempted to use my bike BUT not in an unsecure area, the frame may be safe via a good lock, but the thief will still take parts off the bike(forks, mechs etc.) or simply vandalise it. Have we a secure area for bikes? If not are there any plans for one?It would certainly help the congestion on matchday if you could get as many people as possible using a bike. Thanks General.

Nah. I doubt it was her. I think she's probably got more to occupy herself than do that. And regardless of what I may think about her performances, I think he's probably above that. She didn't conduct herself that badly when she appeared on Question Time a couple of months ago. I may think her opinions on economics are crap but I don't think she's that pathetic. I heard her on the radio a few weeks ago, either Radio 4 or Five Live, and many callers disagreed with her views, one caller inparticular had her on the ropes over the availabilty of credit, CDO's, MBS.She hadn't a clue what he was talking about.She has NO grasp of economics, she is just a greedy, privileged spoilt brat, who see's her free ride through life being gradually taken away from her, and she is getting angry.

More lenders withdrawing mortgage deals:Times S&P predict large downwards correction for European property prices(especially UK and Spain) S&P