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So they play a massive five more long balls per game but twice as many short passes. Why is that from thisisanfield.com? Not sure how recent that is. Whoscored has them down for 65 per game and us as 69. Still nearly twice as many short passes too.

Sure about that?

Told to take his chance, does so, praised, shipped off..............

Is this hindsightvillatalk.com ?

Yeah it is, you trying to combine the first goal scorer with the same match? I know it wont let you do that.

Always have this little beauty to thank him for

Just gets better for him, brilliant stuff, golden touch. At this rate of improved fortune he'll soon be having sex with lesbian porn stars.......

That's a fair point Cory so do you think Lambert has been good tactically? Just off the top of my head take the Everton game for example, that game was crying out for a change, even someone as dimwitted and tactically weak as me could see that, so I'm sure you could too. Yet who made that change? Then what happened after that change was made? How about Delph pushed out wide on Monday leaving our two weakest midfielders in the centre, was that a good idea? How about when Weimann was atrocious against Sheffield United but he didn't sub him off? How about when we needed a goal against Palace he subbed Kozak off for Bowery instead of perhaps having them both up top? A game we then ended up losing. How about when he stuck Bowery out wide against Stoke? Or my favourite starting with 5 defenders and 3 non attacking cm's against a West Ham team struggling to score goals and with no recognised striker? The shortlist for the Baggies would probably be similar to ours, probably not even as good. I saw some great managers on that list.

Sylla gets a rough ride on here and yet he was very much part of the team that had that good run between Feb and May last year. Interestingly KEA was not.

Incredible how some people have access to our budget

What funds do we have available then?

One of them has broken a leg. The others aren't scoring goals. We have very little money, and we're mostly agreed that whatever money we do have should go on a playmaker. It's a backup signing, on loan, and will cost very little. Whether he plays or not, there's no harm done getting him in, given the state of the finances available. Theres a whole world of reasons why we arent scoring goals and Grant Holt is highly unlikely to change that. Its a signing that imv wasnt needed and if he is the cover to Kozak well again signing a guy struggling in the Championship and struggling for fitness probably isnt the answer either. I dont know the costs, could be cheap but it also might not be, I'm just commenting on the merits of the player alone.

Indeed. It certainly isn't a good signing and I don't think I've seen one person categorise it as that (not sincerely anyway). It is the very definition of a logical, 'ok at best' signing with more potential for bad than good. But right now, without dealing in hypotheticals I'm not too concerned That's a fair view point and I'm not too worried about the Holt signing per say either but it does say a lot about Lambert when we have an awful lot of strikers at our disposal but he still wants to steer towards a lump struggling in the Championship.

As others have said I'll support the guy on the pitch but no matter how people spin it its just not a good signing and why? Because he isn't the player he was and he now struggles with fitness and also struggles getting into a mid-table Championship side. Midfield players at Wigan have been preferred up front to him. While we send the likes of Jordan Graham back out on loan we bring in this guy. Its ok though he'll knock some defenders about and cause havoc. Is this the 1980's? What other good team plays with a slow battering ram of little skill? f***i*g hoof

For their first team, so they can build with these players. Ours is a 4 month loan for back-up. There's no context to your post. So because it isnt exactly the same it has no context? I'm well aware of the differences, I'm also well aware that Hull have just improved their side, while we have signed a proper bloke, who is cover for a television mast who is currently edging legend status after three tap ins and a broken leg.

Guess who cant get in the Wigan team

3 league goals between them this season and be on treble the wages of Holt between them Only 16 starts between them though. That said Shane Long is a very good player and would only add to our squad. Would rather see him on the pitch than Weimann never mind Holt. But hey ho you pays your money.

Meanwhile Hull look to sign Shane Long and Nikica Jelavic

You know its a shit signing when there are very few others that you can actually try and argue that might be worse,

Key word there 'Championship' - his best season was in the prem ..........errr where we play...... Errr 2 years ago errrr probably under a stiffer training regime.

Like arguing Vanessa Feltz or Liz Jones. Pretty much neither and if you had to pick one its unlikely either will satisfy your needs better than the other. Simple question, yet to be answered. Bowery then, purely because he's fitter and quicker. Holt is a shadow of his average former self. Also Helenius would be a better option than both if we are to bring on an attacking player.

/\ /\ Long term thinking /\ /\ /\ /\ Short term thinking /\ /\ Thanks for that incredible insight. Tell me, how has Lamberts poor tactics come to be placed in your well respected bracket of "short term thinking?"

Like arguing Vanessa Feltz or Liz Jones. Pretty much neither and if you had to pick one its unlikely either will satisfy your needs better than the other.

13 of those goals came from two games

Klose > Holt