DCJonah

Have a look at the half a dozen or so chances in the first half that almost resulted in goals too - they're all the same. I like him, i think he's a good manager, but he's still got things to learn and today he was rubbish. Agreed but they didn't score all those chances. I'm not arguing he got things spot on today, I'm just saying for the goals we conceded individual errors played more of a part.

Don't think it works like that. The fact is we won them with Given in goal and made a big difference after the loss against city

It's not a huge shock that you place little blame at the manager's door Ironic really haha likes by the same people who liked 'I'd rather Gil than sherwood next season.' What a surprise. We've been through this before. I won't judge sherwood the same way in which i judged lambert because the situations are different. If in 2 and a half years time, the team he builds puts in a performance like today then i'd judge him the same way. But for me, he picked the right team, the high line was a mistake but looking at the goals, i can see where individual mistakes have cost us more than the way the team was set up.

I look at the goals and individual mistakes are worse than the high line. We've lost the midfield battle because all 3 have played very poorly more than the tactical approach.

Yep, I'd go along with that.

We won 2 games after dropping guzan. Those 2 wins are looking massive now. I dont think given is a brilliant keeper but I think bringing him in after guzan was awful at city played a part. We need a new keeper in the summer and keep guzan as back up.

Awful defending yet again.

His only job this season was to keep us up. That could happen in a few hours.

I'd like a new keeper in the summer.

Your attitude to given in the match thread is exactly the same. Not even close. Nice try though Given hasn't pulled up any trees over the last few games and has looked weak and I've said as much after those games.. I much prefer Guzan. Westwood always seems to cop flak if he doesn't play well in a single game. If you say so. I dont actually think Westwood deserves to be singled out over anyone else.

Crazy how virtually every player can be so awful after such a great run of performances.

Time to worry again.

Watching the goals again, the criticism of given is daft.

Lambert in.

Your attitude to given in the match thread is exactly the same.

Yay we are great.

He was always going to cost us because he's useless, I just hope he has got it all out of his system ahead of the cup final. Which goal was his fault?

Well done Westwood.

That's the problem, he hasn't. How many times are we going to get done by balls in behind? What can he do when okore just leaves a man with no idea he's there? If senderos is fit enough he should get him on but our two centre halves are absolutely awful.

Do they want to play in a cup final? Okore and vlaar have been a **** disgrace.

This is **** ridiculous.

Not sure what given's done wrong to be turned on. Unlucky with the first and **** over by his defence for the other two.

Well this should cement it.

For gods sake.

Guess we're cheering on spurs then.