M_Afro

I love Jack and can’t believe the way that Safegate treats him but we are doing ok here. We will win this in spite of Safegate and his boring tactics.

I can’t believe we are even interested. It would just be a really odd move in my view. Tammy is a cherry on top signing and we are far from finishing the icing at this point! Glad we have a separate thread now though as it was becoming somewhat distracting.

I agree that we are really well run now and anything they will have agreed will have been the most beneficial position for Villa given the set of circumstances but two things to consider; firstly there are two parties in the negotiation here and if Jack insists in the release clause then we are likely to allow it rather than risk upsetting him. Secondly, a release clause, set at the right level, is actually very beneficial to the club and actually provides protection. A high release clause makes life simpler. Pay £130m, if you want him or go away. No prolonged game of cat and mouse.

I hope you’re right. I guess if their priority is a striker and they then have to sell, it may explain why nothing has happened yet.

I am a little intrigued as to how well Grealish would play in a Pep team. I think he could go up a level or two more. Hopefully we can talk Pep into taking over from Dean in a couple of years when he heads off to manage England! Win, win, win.

I am still a bit worried about a potential release clause. It was definitely reported last summer as being in his contract. Even so, if city want a striker first, they will probably need to sell a few to make way for Jack. I just hope this doesn’t get strung out. Either sign a new contract or reach agreement to leave. If he does go, I hope we are able to sign replacements before it becomes public.

Reading the last few pages of this thread is making it clear that we absolutely need a genuine link and quick. Is it Thursday yet?!

Tammy is not coming to villa without assurances that he is going to play every week, which we won’t give him. Anybody willing to pay £40m for him is fully having their pants pulled down. Add to that the fact that that he is unsuited to our favoured style of play and what you have is a few bits of unfounded click bait rubbish.

There’s only 2 main scenarios that lead to Jack leaving this summer. Firstly, he does have a release clause in his contract, that is triggered by a club. Secondly, a club make an offer which is too good to turn down (maybe £150m). The first of those scenarios is unlikely. It was reported at the time of signing his contract that it did contain a release clause but it is likely that it only comes into play if we were relegated. Therefore, we are likely to be ok here. The second of those scenarios is also unlikely. Who can afford to pay £150m for a single player? The answer is probably only City or PSG and neither are likely to go that hard after Jack. In reality, the contract Jack signed last year really protects us. We hold all of the cards. I expect us to keep him for at least one more season. Whether he remains longer will probably be directly linked to how well we do next season.

100% correct

The whole England shambles is our biggest enemy at the moment. Jack wants to prove that he is the best by playing against and beating the best on the biggest stage. England gives him the opportunity to do that but for some reason big nose does not deem him worthy. If Jack moves to City, he will not only play in massive matches for them, he will make it impossible for Safegate to ignore him. Jack is a driven individual. He is not like a Le Tiss who was largely quite lazy. He wants to step up and keep proving himself. I think we will just about be able to convince him to stay for one more year but unless we get a new England manager or Villa qualify for CL I’m sure he will leave next season. Jack always speaks in awe of City. You can tell that he is drawn to them.

Well I guess we will find out.

I don’t disagree but I think Jack will want CL to stay, however unlikely that may be.

I think he will stay for another season. If we finish top 4 he will then stay for another season. If we don’t then I would imagine that he will leave. Whatever happens we won’t have our pants pulled down.

You don’t buy a Ferrari and then drive it around at 30mph because you are concerned about fuel consumption. What the actual f*** does big nose want Jack defending for when he already has like a gazillion defenders on the pitch. Get him forward, give him the ball, sit back and enjoy as he goes to town. Simples

Gary Neville is big mates with Southgate and will be a mouthpiece for big nose at every given opportunity. I take his thoughts on these matters with an enormous pinch of salt. That said, we will almost certainly be disappointed when the team’s announced on Tuesday. In a way, I hope that Jack doesn’t play. Big nose sets up in a way that will never get the best out of Jack. It almost seems as though he wants Jack to fulfill a role that he is totally unsuitable for. Big nose’s England are awful to watch. Hopefully we won’t be subjected to it for much longer!

Was it you who punched me in the face

Anybody remember the chippy in Sutton called George’s Best? Always good for a bag of chips or a punch in the face after a night out!

Sterling definitely does not pass to Jack. He also gets in his way most of the time. Thank goodness we only have one more game of this left. I have never been so bored watching England in a tournament.

I have just been on the Norwich fans forum. There’s not a single fish pun to be found anywhere. Those guys really do not know how to enjoy themselves!

Best programme for ages. Best football programme since Josie’s Giants!

The point is, it should never have been one or the other. Both players should be in the squad. Safegate picked way too many defenders!

I doubt whether Jack will start tomorrow. Gareth is just too cautious. He will bring in Bellingham for Mount but I don’t expect any other changes. Imagine living in a world where a football manager values Rice, Philips, Bellingham, Mount, Sterling et al over a genuine once in a generation talent in Grealish. Ridiculous really.

It was reported at the time that his contract did include a buy out clause.

I know you are only joking of course but the chances of Safegate getting a PL gig are slim to none. How have we ended up with an England manager of such poor quality? Are the FA that skint? Safegate would be hard pushed to get a top championship gig. It’s even more crazy to think that he will still probably be in charge by the next World Cup. That is probably not good news for our Jack.