peterms Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Search The Money @SearchTheMoney Lynton Crosby's company utilizes an offshore tax haven http://tinyurl.com/q75d5n9 through which he donates to the Tories http://searchthemoney.com/donation/25610 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 peterms, on 03 Oct 2013 - 2:54 PM, said: Search The Money @SearchTheMoney Lynton Crosby's company utilizes an offshore tax haven http://tinyurl.com/q75d5n9 through which he donates to the Tories http://searchthemoney.com/donation/25610 I'm curious why someone who claims to be impartial only mentions Tory's all the time .... How about a dossier on Andrew Rosenfield the tax exile Labour advisor in order to show the impartiality ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 peterms, on 03 Oct 2013 - 2:54 PM, said: Search The Money @SearchTheMoney Lynton Crosby's company utilizes an offshore tax haven http://tinyurl.com/q75d5n9 through which he donates to the Tories http://searchthemoney.com/donation/25610 I'm curious why someone who claims to be impartial only mentions Tory's all the time .... How about a dossier on Andrew Rosenfield the tax exile Labour advisor in order to show the impartiality ? "We are all in this together" ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 No one on this thread is impartial, everyone is either a raging tory or a dye in the wool socialist with a few liberals who are confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 No one on this thread is impartial, everyone is either a raging tory or a dye in the wool socialist with a few liberals who are confused From each according to his impartiality , to each according to his political bent surely? Some are more bent than others obviously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I think that tweet is a little misleading! Whilst it may be true that Crosby uses an offshore company the link quite clearly shows that it is a UK tax registered company based in London that made the donation to the Tory party. Besides i'm not sure that Malta qualifies as a mysterious tax haven...it's a fully paid up member of the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I think that tweet is a little misleading! Whilst it may be true that Crosby uses an offshore company the link quite clearly shows that it is a UK tax registered company based in London that made the donation to the Tory party. Besides i'm not sure that Malta qualifies as a mysterious tax haven...it's a fully paid up member of the EU. http://www.qwealthreport.com/malta-little-known-tax-haven-within-eu/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 peterms, on 03 Oct 2013 - 2:54 PM, said: Search The Money @SearchTheMoney Lynton Crosby's company utilizes an offshore tax haven http://tinyurl.com/q75d5n9 through which he donates to the Tories http://searchthemoney.com/donation/25610 I'm curious why someone who claims to be impartial only mentions Tory's all the time .... How about a dossier on Andrew Rosenfield the tax exile Labour advisor in order to show the impartiality ? Moi? Impartial? I have clear, strong and fully-formed opinions, thanks. On all sorts of things including politics, religion, domestic pets, table sauces... You may be confusing this with being an uncritical supporter of the Labour Party, which I am not. But do bear in mind that someone who criticises greed, corruption, taxdodging, usury, and parasitic rentier scum, is likely to find far more material to work with among tories and their venal fellow-travellers than among people of other persuasions. That's because their core belief is, as someone put it, "greed is good". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I think that tweet is a little misleading! Whilst it may be true that Crosby uses an offshore company the link quite clearly shows that it is a UK tax registered company based in London that made the donation to the Tory party. Besides i'm not sure that Malta qualifies as a mysterious tax haven...it's a fully paid up member of the EU. A little more misleading than that I think. I dont think the company Rutland has ever done any business in the UK or paid any dividends to anyone in the UK, it legitimately fulfills all its tax obligations in Malta. No fees have been received by it from any UK company, individual or body. Crosby , I believe, pays tax in the UK on his UK earnings at the same rate as any UK citizen. So it seems to me that any claim that it was set up or used to avoid paying UK tax is actually wrong. But hey ho that wont stop it being jumped on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 peterms, on 03 Oct 2013 - 4:44 PM, said: tonyh29, on 03 Oct 2013 - 3:47 PM, said: peterms, on 03 Oct 2013 - 2:54 PM, said:peterms, on 03 Oct 2013 - 2:54 PM, said: Search The Money @SearchTheMoney Lynton Crosby's company utilizes an offshore tax haven http://tinyurl.com/q75d5n9 through which he donates to the Tories http://searchthemoney.com/donation/25610 I'm curious why someone who claims to be impartial only mentions Tory's all the time .... How about a dossier on Andrew Rosenfield the tax exile Labour advisor in order to show the impartiality ? Moi? Impartial? I have clear, strong and fully-formed opinions, thanks. On all sorts of things including politics, religion, domestic pets, table sauces... You may be confusing this with being an uncritical supporter of the Labour Party, which I am not. But do bear in mind that someone who criticises greed, corruption, taxdodging, usury, and parasitic rentier scum, is likely to find far more material to work with among tories and their venal fellow-travellers than among people of other persuasions. That's because their core belief is, as someone put it, "greed is good". I bet your prefer Ketchup I knew it , I knew it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I bet your prefer Ketchup I knew it , I knew it The only use I have for ketchup is feeding children, or as one ingredient in a marinade for barbecued spare ribs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I think that tweet is a little misleading! Whilst it may be true that Crosby uses an offshore company the link quite clearly shows that it is a UK tax registered company based in London that made the donation to the Tory party. Besides i'm not sure that Malta qualifies as a mysterious tax haven...it's a fully paid up member of the EU. A little more misleading than that I think. I dont think the company Rutland has ever done any business in the UK or paid any dividends to anyone in the UK, it legitimately fulfills all its tax obligations in Malta. No fees have been received by it from any UK company, individual or body. Crosby , I believe, pays tax in the UK on his UK earnings at the same rate as any UK citizen. So it seems to me that any claim that it was set up or used to avoid paying UK tax is actually wrong. But hey ho that wont stop it being jumped on Are you quoting from a central office briefing note, or from CTF? Because you're quoting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) Unhidden your post to answer that Peter. From research I have done, from answers to questions I have had when discussing with people. Not sure if they have quoted any "briefing note" or CTF (and I may be a bad Tory but not even sure what CTF is to be honest) Peter I do wish you'd focus less on a conspiracy and take things for what they are. I dont spend my time getting briefing notes or emails telling me I have to say this or another. There is not that control on my thoughts. Maybe you think there is because of other parties behaviour.? Edited October 3, 2013 by Richard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 there is a part of me that finds it amusing that someone who cuts and pastes things straight off twitter with no comment of their own then accuses someone else of copying and pasting anyway ..carry on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) Unhidden your post to answer that Peter. From research I have done, from answers to questions I have had when discussing with people. Not sure if they have quoted any "briefing note" or CTF (and I may be a bad Tory but not even sure what CTF is to be honest) Peter I do wish you'd focus less on a conspiracy and take things for what they are. I dont spend my time getting briefing notes or emails telling me I have to say this or another. There is not that control on my thoughts. Maybe you think there is because of other parties behaviour.? Why would you being doing 'research' on the company Rutland, where it has ever conducted its business, who its shareholders or receivers of divis are, or whether the company has ever received any fees from any UK company, individual or body? Edit: Wasn't the spokesperson from CTF quoted as saying just what you posted in the Mirror article linked (I finally brought myself to read something in The Mirror much though it pained me)? then accuses someone else of copying and pasting It's not the copying and pasting that troubles (or should trouble) anyone but whether or not the source is acknowledged or whether the poster tries to pass the copied homework off as their own. Edited October 3, 2013 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 my thoughts on the matter for what it's worth is that It's not the copying and pasting that troubles (or should trouble) anyone but whether or not the source is acknowledged or whether the poster tries to pass the copied homework off as their own but that's just my own thoughts like I say 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 3, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 3, 2013 THIS IS A GENERAL WARNING FOR ALL POSTERS. BEHAVIOUR IN THIS THREAD IS BECOMING TIRESOME - PETTY COMMENTS AGAINST EACH OTHER, SPURIOUS REPORTING OF POSTS TO THE MODS, MINOR BREACHES OF SITE GUIDELINES. PLEASE REMAIN CIVIL, PLAY THE BALL NOT THE MAN. IT NOT WE WILL CLAMP DOWN ON PEOPLE'S PRIVELEGE TO POST ON THE SITE. THANK YOU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Is it right that the MP's are still on "holiday"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Well, parliament is in recess for the conferences until next tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 OK thx Snowy - should make the first PMQ pretty interesting to see what the tone is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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