World of Warcraft

[TRL]

* Silence and Interrupt effects now have diminishing returns when used on PvP targets.

Does this mean i wil be harder to kill in PvP? 8)

Anyway, thats a big blow to 3 x Mage teams.

Have to say the Hamstring nerf is stupid tho. Basically it only affects your trinketing. From imbalanced spam to 10 sec cooldown when the duration of the ability is 15 secs. LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLDPSKfhæhnæha'pogj'aSRBJ0RTJHÆAPMBNÆAG

[lagbonlahor10]

Priest ftw? (human + both pve and pvp) or

Warrior ftw? (human + both pve and pvp)

Go away and never darken our thread again please.

Jog on.

[Risso]

Earth Shock going onto a Diminishing Return in 2.3. Thats one hell of a hard nerf.

Surely it applies to all silence and interrupt spells though, which can only be a good thing I reckon

[The_Rev]

Yeah, but it wont affect individual Priests, Mages or Warlocks as much as our silence effects are on a longer cooldown than the diminishing timer.

Sure, it will stop triple cloth teams just taking out a healer in the arena but it will screw all aspects of Shammy PvP. One of the reasons Shammies have next to no CC because of their ability to lock down casters (ES and Grounding juggling) which is now gone.

[TRL]

Which was tbh to powerful. If you are talking equally geared, an enchancement shaman will probably kill me faster then a warrior or rogue. Simply because i dont get heals off.

[ozvillafan]

Yeah, but it wont affect individual Priests, Mages or Warlocks as much as our silence effects are on a longer cooldown than the diminishing timer.

Sure, it will stop triple cloth teams just taking out a healer in the arena but it will screw all aspects of Shammy PvP. One of the reasons Shammies have next to no CC because of their ability to lock down casters (ES and Grounding juggling) which is now gone.

Dont get me started.

[Risso]

Which was tbh to powerful. If you are talking equally geared, an enchancement shaman will probably kill me faster then a warrior or rogue. Simply because i dont get heals off.

ES stopping you healing for 2 seconds is more powerful than a rogue stopping you doing anything at all? Kick has the same effect as ES, yet stops that school for 5 seconds.

[irishjay]

Forgot to post this at the time:

you bastard i thought you forgot about that although you said you would post it

[TRL]

Which was tbh to powerful. If you are talking equally geared, an enchancement shaman will probably kill me faster then a warrior or rogue. Simply because i dont get heals off.

ES stopping you healing for 2 seconds is more powerful than a rogue stopping you doing anything at all? Kick has the same effect as ES, yet stops that school for 5 seconds.

Well i usually have time to hit panic buttons when a rogue nails me. I can fear, trinket insta or something similar. With a shaman its ride/run/jump whatever windfury 1 million damage, no casts, no workable CC etc.

[ozvillafan]

Yeah, but it wont affect individual Priests, Mages or Warlocks as much as our silence effects are on a longer cooldown than the diminishing timer.

Sure, it will stop triple cloth teams just taking out a healer in the arena but it will screw all aspects of Shammy PvP. One of the reasons Shammies have next to no CC because of their ability to lock down casters (ES and Grounding juggling) which is now gone.

Dont get me started.

Too late.

Banned from the US shaman forums for questioning random deletion of threads that mentioned the words:

"Shaman", "2.3", "Diminishing Returns" and "Earth Shock".

This could get ugly.

[ozvillafan]

Well i usually have time to hit panic buttons when a rogue nails me. I can fear, trinket insta or something similar. With a shaman its ride/run/jump whatever windfury 1 million damage, no casts, no workable CC etc.

Maybe he was just similarly geared and had you focus fired.

Seriously - there is a class that actually has a problem with Shaman in PvP? Windfury, eh? So not just shaman - but the worst shaman PvP spec?

You wouldn't be the only clothy class with long cast times, would you?

Nevermind. Blizz is fixing that. Shaman are obviously still OP and should not be able to kill anyone 1 on 1. After all, the game is balanced around 5v5, right?

[villa89]

As I am nearly 70 now (10 bars to go) Back with a few more noob questions:

1. I have nearly 2000g now saved up and I dont think druids need to buy the epic flying mount --> do they get epic flight form? What to spend this money on?

2. Its taken my about 20 days (game time) to level to 70 without any boosting or anything like that, is that good or bad? Can I lvl another character faster than that?

3. PvP? How does this work ( I have 389 honor points most from ninja kills :oops: )? How do you go to battlegrounds and when there, what happens? Is it just a killfest or are there king of the hill/capture the flag/etc. games. Can you go there play and have fun or do you have to be in an arena team. Is my feral spec tanking druid going to get pwned?

4. PvP gear versus PvE gear - whats the difference. Resilience for PvP gear important? What is it?

5. Alchemy specialisation - Which one?

[TRL]

Well i usually have time to hit panic buttons when a rogue nails me. I can fear, trinket insta or something similar. With a shaman its ride/run/jump whatever windfury 1 million damage, no casts, no workable CC etc.

Maybe he was just similarly geared and had you focus fired.

Seriously - there is a class that actually has a problem with Shaman in PvP? Windfury, eh? So not just shaman - but the worst shaman PvP spec?

You wouldn't be the only clothy class with long cast times, would you?

Nevermind. Blizz is fixing that. Shaman are obviously still OP and should not be able to kill anyone 1 on 1. After all, the game is balanced around 5v5, right?

Yes like i already said. Without beeing able to insta counter anything or CC, while beeing purged you are ****. Enhancement needed a nerf against priests atleast. It was an unbalanced fight which never was supposed to be that unbalanced.

[TRL]

As I am nearly 70 now (10 bars to go) Back with a few more noob questions:

1. I have nearly 2000g now saved up and I dont think druids need to buy the epic flying mount --> do they get epic flight form? What to spend this money on?

2. Its taken my about 20 days (game time) to level to 70 without any boosting or anything like that, is that good or bad? Can I lvl another character faster than that?

3. PvP? How does this work ( I have 389 honor points most from ninja kills :oops: )? How do you go to battlegrounds and when there, what happens? Is it just a killfest or are there king of the hill/capture the flag/etc. games. Can you go there play and have fun or do you have to be in an arena team. Is my feral spec tanking druid going to get pwned?

4. PvP gear versus PvE gear - whats the difference. Resilience for PvP gear important? What is it?

5. Alchemy specialisation - Which one?

Just save your money until you decide what way you fancy going. PvE gear can be crafted more or less wether you are DPS or HPS. The crafted gear might cost some gold.

Make an arena team with a friend. Gain a Gladiator piece after a month. DO AV/AB etc. see if you like it. If you do you just continue and buy PvP gear for honour points.

The enchants you will need costs a bit aswell.

[The_Rev]

As I am nearly 70 now (10 bars to go) Back with a few more noob questions:

1. I have nearly 2000g now saved up and I dont think druids need to buy the epic flying mount --> do they get epic flight form? What to spend this money on?

2. Its taken my about 20 days (game time) to level to 70 without any boosting or anything like that, is that good or bad? Can I lvl another character faster than that?

3. PvP? How does this work ( I have 389 honor points most from ninja kills :oops: )? How do you go to battlegrounds and when there, what happens? Is it just a killfest or are there king of the hill/capture the flag/etc. games. Can you go there play and have fun or do you have to be in an arena team. Is my feral spec tanking druid going to get pwned?

4. PvP gear versus PvE gear - whats the difference. Resilience for PvP gear important? What is it?

5. Alchemy specialisation - Which one?

1] Druids need to buy "epic" flying skill before they can unlock the chain of quests for epic flight form. You will need 5200 gold

2] It takes as long to level as it takes. There is no good or bad time, as long as you had fun doing it. You will probably level a second toon faster though as you will know a bit more about what you are doing.

3] There are all kinds of PvP. The main two are Battlegrounds and Arena. Battlegrounds are more objective driven. Capture the flag: Warsong Gulch, King of the Hill: Arathi Basin. (Eye of the Storm is a mixture of both, Alterac Valley is just free honour)

You get honour points and marks for battlegrounds. You buy rewards with these at the officers quarters in Orgrimmar (or Stormwind if you are an alliance bastard)

Arena is a straightforward deathmatch. You get Arena points for competing here and you need to be in a team, unlike battlegrounds which you can just hop into.

Arena is more "serious" PvP than battlegrounds, and generally the rewards are better.

I dont that much about Druids, but Resto appears to be the best PvP spec. Especially in Arena, and especially in 2v2.

4] PvE gear is better for PvE, PvP gear is better for PvP. Sounds obvious, but its true!

Generally you will live a lot longer in PvP gear, and resilience reduces damage from crits and dots, so yes, its important.

5] Whichever one you use the most. If you want to heal id probably say pots, if you tank, alchemy.

[ozvillafan]

Yes like i already said. Without beeing able to insta counter anything or CC, while beeing purged you are ****. Enhancement needed a nerf against priests atleast. It was an unbalanced fight which never was supposed to be that unbalanced.

You're kidding right? You're the only class I can consistently take down, outside other shaman. Nobody else has a problem with enhance shaman. Period.

But shaman should never beat anyone, amiright?

[villa89]

Thanks Rev

[TRL]

Yes like i already said. Without beeing able to insta counter anything or CC, while beeing purged you are ****. Enhancement needed a nerf against priests atleast. It was an unbalanced fight which never was supposed to be that unbalanced.

You're kidding right? You're the only class I can consistently take down, outside other shaman. Nobody else has a problem with enhance shaman. Period.

But shaman should never beat anyone, amiright?

No idea what you are getting worked up about. Enchancement shamans can do stupid damage which ive experienced both on my warlock and my priest, but the Shaman vs priest fight was very unbalanced and no intended imbalance, which is why they are fixing it.

If you only kill priests it might be your gear though. Playing with good geared enhancement shamans in BG's and arenas, and with a dedicated healer they hammer through **** everything with ridiculous burst damage.

[ED]

?????

Enhancement shaman are a joke, nerf elemental and resto!

[TRL]

Says the one without a cloth class, while his main has 1 million dodge, parry, evasion and stuns. I loll'ed.

Funneh how you want the magical classes/specs nerfed who dont care shit for the previous abilities mentioned