samjp26 Posted April 11, 2014 Posted April 11, 2014 Just watched a bit of this on Eurosport. Still pisses me off that they restructured things to ensure clubs like ourselves can't get a shout. Uefalona dominating it so it seems, shock.
villa4europe Posted April 11, 2014 Posted April 11, 2014 Who won what at youth level last year? Us in the nextgen, Fulham in the league, Southampton in the cup? The FA should have said something but who am I kidding
rosenthal Posted April 11, 2014 Posted April 11, 2014 Shame they couldnt keep the Nextgen series going anyway, more than enough clubs from outside of the Champions League that has excellent academy teams.
NoelVilla Posted April 11, 2014 Posted April 11, 2014 Crap tournament now when the best aren't allowed to participate.
samjp26 Posted April 11, 2014 Author Posted April 11, 2014 Crap tournament now when the best aren't allowed to participate. As long as Barca win it they don't care unfortunately.
villa4europe Posted April 11, 2014 Posted April 11, 2014 why the dig at barca? are they the main beneficiaries of this? cos from where im sat chelsea, man utd, arsenal and man city all gained a bigger advantage from this than barca did
samjp26 Posted April 11, 2014 Author Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) why the dig at barca? are they the main beneficiaries of this? cos from where im sat chelsea, man utd, arsenal and man city all gained a bigger advantage from this than barca did More of a dig at the lot of them, rather than just Barca, apologies though. Edited April 11, 2014 by samjp26
villa4europe Posted April 11, 2014 Posted April 11, 2014 to be fair i did try looking to see where barca are in the spanish youth league and was struggling i assume UEFA will use the excuse that not all european countries have a decent youth structure and therefore youth champions to put forward, but we do, which is why i made the comment about the FA doing something (but im under no illusion that they will) seems to strange to me that they are constantly rejigging youth football here to try and get it where they want it to be and then they do something as bullshit as this as it stands it would be man city, everton, spurs and west ham from england next year, chelsea are 4th in the south league, arsenal are 9th
OutByEaster? Posted April 11, 2014 Moderator Posted April 11, 2014 In fairness, the Next Gen was an invitation only tournament, you couldn't qualify, you couldn't get into it by winning games - the fact that we were invited says good things about our academy, the fact that we won it means we're emotionally invested, but this wasn't a meritocracy that took the best they could find and brought them together for the good of the game - it was a European super league formed by a TV company without UEFA or FIFA - letting it survive set a very dangerous precedent for the future of UEFA's big midweek TV show. Of course, the replacement, the Junior Champions League takes the qualification and puts it instead on the merits of other teams that play in the same shirts - you still can't qualify by being a good youth team, you still can't be a group of players that win your way in - either the first team you'd like to be in is good enough or its not. For UEFA, they've found another way to use the Champion's league brand and another way to stop their big boys eyeing up freedom. As a little bonus, they've made the academies of those clubs that little bit more attractive to the best youngsters. Two bad leagues, but one keeps all of the people that need to be happy - happy. I love football.
samjp26 Posted April 11, 2014 Author Posted April 11, 2014 In fairness, the Next Gen was an invitation only tournament, you couldn't qualify, you couldn't get into it by winning games - the fact that we were invited says good things about our academy, the fact that we won it means we're emotionally invested, but this wasn't a meritocracy that took the best they could find and brought them together for the good of the game - it was a European super league formed by a TV company without UEFA or FIFA - letting it survive set a very dangerous precedent for the future of UEFA's big midweek TV show. Of course, the replacement, the Junior Champions League takes the qualification and puts it instead on the merits of other teams that play in the same shirts - you still can't qualify by being a good youth team, you still can't be a group of players that win your way in - either the first team you'd like to be in is good enough or its not. For UEFA, they've found another way to use the Champion's league brand and another way to stop their big boys eyeing up freedom. As a little bonus, they've made the academies of those clubs that little bit more attractive to the best youngsters. Two bad leagues, but one keeps all of the people that need to be happy - happy. I love football. Yep you hit the nail on the head mate. Its a shame really, I hope that a new tournament will be developed but I doubt it will happen. Uefa have their iron grip firmly around the entire **** game.
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