Woodytom

They are proper pansies. I've been playing with a groin strain for 5 months. **** won't shift. Bagged 13 yesterday.

Nah, doesn't work like that. Ive been informed on many occasions on here that just because you are bottom and unable to win a game, it doesn't mean every player is shit.

As was suggested in the summer. Guardiola really isn't THAT good. When he's not working with the very very best players in the world, he's pretty average

I'm stunned there's 27 players worse than Westwood.

How did I? The 8-0 was on sky. I was working. Recorded it. We went 2-0 down (thought we'd played ok up to that point tbh) and then my gf told me the score and I switched off. The 4-0 to spurs. Working again. Didn't record it. 3-0 to Wigan was a 3pm sat kick wasn't it? Didn't see it anyway.

The team has my support. Been to 3 games in the last month and going to wolves away. Just because I give my honest opinion on here it doesn't mean I don't support the team and want the best for the club. Happy new year.

Where?

I DIDN'T 'SEE' THEM!!!!!!

There's disagreeing and then calling me a liar and saying I'm posting for effect. I don't know that at all. I don't think it's a given.

I disagree. But I appreciate the respectful debate

Unsure of what your point is? Who is saying we should get rid of Bruce?

Because of the event. Not the performance.

Sorry, don't we currently sit 10th in the championship. Steve Bruce is currently our manager. Yeah he's got us going in the right direction but can't help thinking we'd be higher if we weren't playing such turgid drivel.

It's that he's not that good. But that's for a different thread.

Well that's their decision to assume or ask for further confirmation. Instead people are just attacking my opinion suggesting it's not real when it's not. What the **** have I got to gain from saying the Norwich game is the worst I've ever seen? I thought it was utterly dreadful. People see football differently. Interpret football differently. I obviously have seen a lot more games than this season but tbh, it took about 30 trips to villa park to see a defeat. I've said some positive things about Steve Bruce. He's genuinely grown on me as a man. Found him an irritating word removed before tbh.... and he is getting results. But, having watched 7/8 of the last ten games I'm concerned regarding the performances and don't see how we can possibly continue playing so poorly and end up where we want to be.

I wasn't there I watched it on TV. It was bad no doubt but at least we showed something going forward. My worst 3 would be Norwich (a) 1-0 Bolton (h) 0-2 Doncaster (a) 3-0 I said a few weeks ago, the result against Bradford was worse than Norwich but the performance imo wasn't. We didn't even create a chance v Norwich.

Why do you need to watch every game to have a viewpoint? I've been told I'm negative over and over again. Yet it's all in arguably the worst period of time for Aston villa. Certainly that Ive witnessed. My sk called negative view can't be so far from the truth as we have barely won a game for five years and sit 10th in the championship having spent 60m. I get criticised for being OTT regarding Jordan amavi. (Sorry for going OT). Yet twice on the bounce he's arguably the worst player on the pitch. It's really not coincidence.

No it isn't. It means exactly what it says. It's the worst I've ever seen. If you don't want to debate that further.... fine. I'm not bothered. It's something I've spoke in depth about after the game. Don't see the need to interpret it as the 'worst villa game ever'. Because that is far from what I'm saying.

Bradford where we scored and created some chances?

You do realise that not everyone watches every game every season. I barely watched any last year for example.

Thanks for that. You obviously know exactly what games I've seen and how I evaluate games! Respecting people's opinion and all that.....

Did I see them?

The Norwich game was the worst I've ever seen. The Wigan game was as bad as I've seen bar the goal obviously. There's obviously moments where it's exciting (certainly not most of it as you suggest). If you disagree, fine. I couldn't give a monkeys tbh but don't suggest I'm postin for effect because that's bullshit

I've watched plenty of matches actually. Thanks. The players aren't good enough to retain possession? Do me a favour. Yesterday, we once again had 5 international footballers starting. Another 3 came on. Also 2 u21 internationals. Name me one Steve Bruce side that has been known for retaining possession? As for decision making, you can teach it but we're hardly talking about mind blowing decisions here. Pass the ball to an unmarked player or try and dribble it through 4/5 players.

Their key players were more of a miss than adomah and mccormack. They were missing key players in all areas of the pitch. In the time that mccormack was on they scored and could have had a few more including hitting the bar twice. One of those times was also when adomah was on. Other than the first 5 minutes of the game, I wouldn't say we 'dominated' at all.