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Kiwivillan

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  1. There are no contradictions in the bible. Especially not right at the beginning with Genesis 1 and 2 Order of creation Here is the order in the first (Genesis 1), the Priestly tradition: Day 1: Sky, Earth, light Day 2: Water, both in ocean basins and above the sky(!) Day 3: Plants Day 4: Sun, Moon, stars (as calendrical and navigational aids) Day 5: Sea monsters (whales), fish, birds, land animals, creepy-crawlies (reptiles, insects, etc.) Day 6: Humans (apparently both sexes at the same time) Day 7: Nothing (the Gods took the first day off anyone ever did) Note that there are "days," "evenings," and "mornings" before the Sun was created. Here, the Deity is referred to as "Elohim," which is a plural, thus the literal translation, "the Gods." In this tale, the Gods seem satisfied with what they have done, saying after each step that "it was good." The second one (Genesis 2), the Yahwist tradition, goes: Earth and heavens (misty) Adam, the first man (on a desolate Earth) Plants Animals Eve, the first woman (from Adam's rib) How orderly were things created? #1: Step-by-step. The only discrepancy is that there is no Sun or Moon or stars on the first three "days." #2: God fixes things up as he goes. The first man is lonely, and is not satisfied with animals. God finally creates a woman for him. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things) How satisfied with creation was he? #1: God says "it was good" after each of his labors, and rests on the seventh day, evidently very satisfied. #2: God has to fix up his creation as he goes, and he would certainly not be very satisfied with the disobedience of that primordial couple. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)
  2. The bible is literally true and not full of any contradictions.... War or Peace? EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen. Who is the father of Joseph? MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli. Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it: MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre. Is Jesus equal to or lesser than? JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one. JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Which first--beasts or man? GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. How many stalls and horsemen? 1KI 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen. 2CH 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem. Is it folly to be wise or not? PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. 1CO 1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent." Human vs. ghostly impregnation ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. The sins of the father ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities. DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
  3. I don't understand why so many non-Jewish people refer to a text that is inherintly Jewish and not that old relatively in the civilised world. That is why I could no longer be a Catholic from the age of 14 as I couldn't believe in a collection of Jewish myths and legend that were foisted on my ancestors purely through the circumstances of history and conquest.
  4. How can we argue with such well grounded "suspicions"...
  5. All religions are brainwashing cults but JW is a particularly insane cult
  6. I wish that were true but have you seen the Republican party. One of the frontrunners is from the Mormon Cult. A religion based on a guy who read magic tablets out of a hat and believes American Indians are descended from Israel
  7. That is **** retarded. You're not a Watchtower mentalist are you?
  8. I don't get it? You can clearly see from the video he says "blind" from the lip movement or are we talking about something else? Anything with a ck ending is gutteral and quite obvious to lip read.
  9. It's a fair troll that it has lasted 16 pages but it's a troll nonetheless.
  10. steaknchips appears at 0:34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAFVALRWDyk
  11. Seriously though, there was no such person as Noah and no Ark as the flood would have been the one in the Black Sea that happened thousands of years before the Jewish are reckoned to have become established as such. Just like every Judeo-Christian/Muslim religion is a load of bunkum as they only copied off the Babylonians before them who copied off the Sumerians throw in some Egyptian etc etc etc. Why won't people that claim to be christian acknowledge that if it wasn't for Constantine making Christianity the dominant religion in Roman Empire and all the history that has since past we wouldn't know about any of this. Oh wait, I know, I was a Catholic until 14. I remember the drill. My faith protects me from your logic.
  12. So your saying the dinosaur bones where buried by giant dogs some time in the past? Where is the evidence of these giant dogs?
  13. I'd do her up the wrong 'un... but otherwise... Woop woop woop woop woop, Choked and won, choked and won Yeah boi! O for awesome Watched game in house next to Eden Park. Dancing on balcony, people coming of street to join in YES!
  14. Go ABs. Is getting mental round here right now.
  15. There is one thing you failed to account for though:
  16. One thing I liked about Houllier was that he wasn't MON. Another positive was that he wasn't McLeish.
  17. Houllier was like a guitar teacher trying to make someone unlearn years of bad habits. If they carry on they get bad RSI.
  18. Then Sir may I politely suggest you apply for a new Labrador, the current one will get you run over soon. Pot, kettle, black etc etc McLeish is worse and he plays turgid defend first football that is so negative and deserves to get punished. There is no chance he will finish higher than Houllier
  19. McLeish by 2 to 1. Good grief some people love shit football.
  20. Is mental. Auckland going off. Proud to be Irish. Put to bed the ghost of 1991. Warriors beat Tigers in NRL and now this. What a weekend.
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