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On 13/11/2020 at 23:40, slovenian said:

nani... and also what a joke mls is...

Was that David Coote on VAR?

And of course Man U now get a dodgy handball pen

34 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

Penalty decision in the Man U game and VAR did not intervene because it was not a clear and obvious error.

Loving the consistency.

Well now there is consistency...Bruno has just gone shin to shin with WBA player, pen given on-field, VAR said no pen.

4 minutes ago, Villaphan04 said:

 

This is the main point for me, and something I've mentioned multiple times here. It's a farce to claim VAR is there to overturn clear and obvious errors, when in most cases it is just a second referee giving his subjective opinion on a close call.

When I saw it live, I thought Trez went down fairly easily and maybe wasn't a pen. Then, watching the first replay, I saw a clear foot to shin with an exaggerated fall by Trez. After the 1000th replay, I noticed March got a foot on the ball before following through on Trez (got a foot on the ball is not the same as play the ball). However, in the modern game just touching the ball first is no longer sufficient to avoid a foul, and if this was elsewhere on the pitch then it probably would have been a free kick. On the other hand, if we were 2-1 up and that was given as a pen against us, I'm sure some of us on here would be fuming.

The point from the above paragraph is that the decision could go either way. Thus, it is not a clear and obvious error and the on-field decision should stand.

4 minutes ago, tomav84 said:

the point of them going to the monitor is so that the ref still looks like the man in charge and gives the impression that he made the decision. no other reason for it. someone correct me if i'm wrong, but not once has a ref been sent to the monitor and kept his on field decision

The ref has disagreed with VAR only once. Incidentally, that decision also went in Brighton's favour (although you can't claim VAR bias here since VAR suggested the decision go against Brighton):

On 02/11/2020 at 14:06, a-k said:

Yesterday was the first time this season that a ref went to the monitor but kept the original decision (disagreed with VAR). Brighton player "won" the ball and went on to score from the resulting attack.

This was the best clip I could find. Ref was literally 2m away from the live play and spent about 2 mins watching it back on the monitor, but decided no foul committed by the Brighton player.

Ref was probably just making things even for this absolute bollocks pen given earlier in the match. Kane makes no attempt for the ball (is looking at the man to see where the contact will be) and places Lallana in danger of injury by purposely clattering into him while airborne, yet somehow gets a pen.

 

Danny Welbeck: "well he's got the ball and the striker's gone into him afterwards"

21 hours ago, villa4europe said:

Mam utd fans are a right special breed

"I think we can get him for £40m plus Phil Jones or Romero" 

You would have thought that after the sancho debacle they would have learned that he's worth whatever we say he's worth 

And just like sancho that number will be one they can't afford 

 

You left out the best part, where that muppet suggested that deal be done in January

Cavani, intentionally or not, dangerously stamps on Richarlison's ankle.

Manchester United website: 

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In the South American World Cup qualifying showdown between Uruguay and Brazil in Montevideo, Edinson Cavani was harshly sent off midway through the second half for a challenge on Everton’s Richarlison – although this will of course have no bearing on his availability for Saturday.

W*nkers

1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said:

So clear that not a single player on either side saw it, nor the match officials, nor the commentators or any of either set of fans I’d wager a guess.

But yeah, aside from not a single person involved seeing anything wrong with it it’s a clear call.

It also took 4 minutes and 20 seconds to determine the ‘clear’ offence.

 

Nah, only took 3 minutes according to the stoppage time at the end of the half

3 hours ago, a-k said:

International football in the middle of a global pandemic is a joke and shows how those at the top only think about money.

Entire Norwegian team placed in quarantine because a player tested positive, so they have to play their match today in Austria with a complete B team. Maybe even a C team if you consider that the second XI are also out and thirteen of the 18 in the matchday squad are yet to receive a cap. This is already after their previous matches during this window were cancelled.

Why is this important? Well, if they beat Austria, then they're in pole position to get promoted to League A. Lose, and they finish 2nd in the group. OK, the Nations League isn't that important, but the chance to play top teams next go around is probably of great interest to the Norwegians.

I understand that of course sometimes players get injured...maybe bad luck would cause Haaland, Odegaard, etc. to miss the match through injury, but everyone is on the same playing field with respect to luck and injuries. Asking, well forcing, a team to play a "crucial game" when the government will not allow the team to travel is not fair and shows how much of a farce this entire situation is and makes a mockery of international football.

Now UEFA awarded Romania a 3-0 win over Norway, because the Norwegian government (not the players or the Norwegian FA) did not allow the team to travel. Absolute shambles.

International football in the middle of a global pandemic is a joke and shows how those at the top only think about money.

Entire Norwegian team placed in quarantine because a player tested positive, so they have to play their match today in Austria with a complete B team. Maybe even a C team if you consider that the second XI are also out and thirteen of the 18 in the matchday squad are yet to receive a cap. This is already after their previous matches during this window were cancelled.

Why is this important? Well, if they beat Austria, then they're in pole position to get promoted to League A. Lose, and they finish 2nd in the group. OK, the Nations League isn't that important, but the chance to play top teams next go around is probably of great interest to the Norwegians.

I understand that of course sometimes players get injured...maybe bad luck would cause Haaland, Odegaard, etc. to miss the match through injury, but everyone is on the same playing field with respect to luck and injuries. Asking, well forcing, a team to play a "crucial game" when the government will not allow the team to travel is not fair and shows how much of a farce this entire situation is and makes a mockery of international football.

23 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

Anyone else feels bad for him?

Won our first 2 games with him starting and didn't put a foot wrong.

Since then he has not kicked a ball.

Well if he's not even doing that in training then he shouldn't be getting into the first XI.

1 hour ago, tonyh29 said:

MOTD didn't show the bit near the end of the second half where he controlled a ball , had 2 or maybe even 3 Arsenal players close him down, and he just shaped his body turned and left them all for dead .

That got me out of my seat as well, but couldn't find a clip of it. Here's the volley...goal of the season if it's not blocked.
 

It is now clear and obvious that the "clear and obvious" aspect of VAR is just a sham...if you have to spend four minutes to make a decision, THE REFEREE HAS NOT MADE AN OBVIOUS ERROR.

23 hours ago, Tom13 said:

Second goal - who is it winning the penalty?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHS6P31qEom/?igshid=fsqkcfls6qp2

We got two pens in one match?

14 hours ago, alexvilla4 said:

Joe Allen - only 30 still with bags of experience and suits a deep midfielder position

A 30 year old coming off an Achilles rupture...

Yesterday was the first time this season that a ref went to the monitor but kept the original decision (disagreed with VAR). Brighton player "won" the ball and went on to score from the resulting attack.

This was the best clip I could find. Ref was literally 2m away from the live play and spent about 2 mins watching it back on the monitor, but decided no foul committed by the Brighton player.

Ref was probably just making things even for this absolute bollocks pen given earlier in the match. Kane makes no attempt for the ball (is looking at the man to see where the contact will be) and places Lallana in danger of injury by purposely clattering into him while airborne, yet somehow gets a pen.

Leeds w*nkfest continues...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/11/02/marcelo-bielsas-murderball-training-sessions-turning-hard-grafting/

Yep, wins over two winless sides and a team that just escaped relegation last year, and they're candidates for Europe

I don't think this was the end of the world against what has become a bogey team for us. Yes, we were dire in the first half, but they also scored 2 quality FKs and basically their only chance from open play in the entire match was a world-class, unstoppable strike. And, the fact that we bossed them when allowed to control possession bodes very well for our upcoming fixtures (after Arsenal) in which we should be expected to be on the front foot.

After 7 rounds of fixtures, we're ahead of Leicester, Arsenal, City, and United. I think we would all have taken that before the first ball was kicked this season.

6 minutes ago, Villarocker said:

I'm thinking that, if I'm a keeper and a player puts one in the top corner from a central position, I'm going to put someone on the other post next time so I've more chance of reaching it if he does it again. Second time, Emi didn't even move. It was poor, sorry. 

He had a player protecting the post. Unfortunately, said player had his feet nailed to the ground.

Doesn't deserve a call-up for the next England matches. Might bring his head back down to Earth...

Would say he should be benched for the next match but not sure Hause is a better option...

Just now, villa4europe said:

Harsh on mcginn, should never be his man, height difference alone 

Exactly, saw that as they were lining up and thought WTF?

4 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

Saints media is so wonderful. They are doing pre match build ups before every game.

Why don't we do something similar. Our media team is so lazy, really needs stepping up. Championship level atm

 

Clicked play...Pundit 1: "3 nil Saints"...Pundit 2: "2 nil Saints"

Is this the Rashica thread?