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Well, what did I say?

Looks like this season will be the same as that one freak season years ago. Teams will need 43 points just to stay up. FACT.

Yes we can. We know they'll lose to all the relegation rivals like rocket polishers. So we will need to win our games anyway. Fortunately we have the form and momentum and are well equipped to do just that.

Mathematically still not out of it, but playing brilliantly like that, this relegation talk is really having a laugh. It's the clubs that were in it (us, Leicester, Hull and now Sunderland) that have suddenly all played like top sides that's keeping it tight. Burnley and QPR are as good as down. Last spot up for grabs. At least we've got fantastic form behind us now. Lost to Man City only due to the intervention of the referee. Managed to beat Everton who are on form themselves, despite having to play against 12 players!

You realize we're facing 2 of those teams as well right? If Sunderland can win, so can we? And lol @ Sunderland winning all their remaining games, I would bet every penny I have that they don't. Yes they almost certainly won't, but they don't have to in order for us to be in big trouble. This is just a plausibility or reasoning why Sunderland could win, and that every game is winnable for them. It's not unreasonable to expect they'll actually win a couple or more of their remaining games. True, if Sunderland can win so can we. Hull proved that if we can beat Livershit, so can they. But it doesn't always happen though. Sometimes Burnley get the luck against Man City and for us the luck goes the other way.

Just don't get the optimism. Beat Spurs away look the most comfortable I've seen us all season > OK. Result in isolation is a bit of a fluke though. Remember the QPR result before this was a poor one. Make Liverpool look like a pub side in the FA Cup > So? Big deal. Liverfool are nothing, shit and Hull proved just that. Yes we lost to Manure (Who we never beat anyway) and Man City away (Last seasons champions) after gifting them goals yet should have won after controlling the game with them needing help from the fourth official to get all 3 points > Playing well and losing is a bad sign and the antithesis of a champion's mantra of playing poor and still winning. BAD SIGN Sure..... were not going to win any more games between now and the end of the season > Sure... this magically does not apply to our relegation rivals somehow. Leicester... opps. Hull... opps. Sunderland... every change of opps. Ditto Burnley. Ditto QPR.

It rankles me that people believe such crap and it's proven by Leicester winning 4 or 5 straight, Hull beating Liverpool, Burnley beating Man City. For anyone so cocksure Sunderland are now the "doomed club": Southampton (H) > Just because it's Southampton means Sunderland have no chance? > SUNDERLAND WIN Everton (A) > Just because it's Everton means Sunderland have no chance? > SUNDERLAND WIN Leicester (H) > SUNDERLAND WIN to obviously aid their fight Arsenal (A) > Title already lost by then. Why do Arse have to bother? > SUNDERLAND WIN Chelsea (A) > Final game of the season. Title could be dusted. Why can't Chelshit throw the game? > SUNDERLAND WIN So why isn't such a scenario possible instead?

Not sure what's the point of saying this tosh. We'll be relegated way before Newcastle ever will be this season. If Newcastle are "still not safe", we're basically gone as we'll struggle to match Newcastle's points come the end of the season.

Didn't expect him to save either the second or third goals to be honest. Because I knew he simply didn't have the capability to do so. Not very good with footwork to be diving across to make saves and not a good shot stopper at all.

Continued his wretched form at the start of the game. Then eventually became better, not entirely solid, but made some vital interceptions.

The thing about keepers is that opinions of them range from he is a great shot stopper to poor; some are saying his distribution is poor but good at crosses and others say he's not even good at crosses anymore! I think this is the most accurate description of what I feel about him. He hardly ever pulls off a game changing save anymore. Any opponent who manages to get a shot that is on target and outside the reach that Guzan is standing, gets a goal. He may not be at fault for most goals, but compared to what De Gea has done for Man Utd this season for example, the gulf is more than obvious. I can safely say that if Villa had De Gea and Man Utd had Guzan, both of the clubs would very easily be near each other in mid table.

Wretchedson. His play was precisely that too. What a waste of time and squad space getting him. He'd be a mediocre player even in the lower divisions. Getting destroyed by a nobody like Phillips shows what a limited useless player he is.

And yet these are teams that QPR, Sunderland and Burnley will sneak wins or draws from. This is where our donating of penalties at the last kick of the game, single moment of lapse per match resulting in the loss, will easily cost us. From these 3 teams alone were 3 points that we threw right away. If we go down we have only ourselves to blame, Sherwood or Lambert. Losing WAY too easily when the other teams around us are able to avoid them.

Wins v QPR and Burnley on its own will probably be enough for us. People keep talking about a win against Burnley being enough but seem to forget Burnley is on the last day of the season. I don't think that's what we really want - a winner takes all final match. Losing too much in the final minutes of matches and not securing enough draws for my liking and this is probably what's making it closer than it should. Looking at results this week Sunderland will probably get something from Newcastle too.

Burnley and QPR are grinding out unlikely results against the likes of Spurs, City and West Ham while we simply and straightforwardly get beaten by anyone outside of the relegation battle. If we don't start grinding out results like they do then even Tim Sherwood is not going to save us.

All the goals were preventable. The first goal Hutton could no longer move but was not replaced quickly enough. As a result he couldn't intercept the loose ball, allowing them to continue and carve out the chance to score. For the second goal, Wayne Rooney's touch looped the ball up into the air and somehow no one challenged for the ball at all despite it hanging there for a good second or two. So Rooney obliged by walking up to it and firing a shot without any pressure. The third goal was simply unforgivable and unbecoming of a team that is in a relegation battle. It was a drop ball and we were simply uninterested compared to Man Utd. Delph was so unbelievably nonchalant just strolling back towards goal when under pressure. Instead, it was Wayne Rooney who showed the greater determination to rob the ball back and leave the pathetic Delph in a heap on the ground. Everyone in our team was switched off and out of position. All the Man Utd players were hungry and alive and simply scored a training ground goal against joke opponents.

2 of our guys were on Rooney, but didn't challege him, they shouldn't have given him the space. I think even Rooney was surprised we allowed him all the time and space in that area. The ball looped up into the air and none of us bothered to challenge for it. So he looked like he decided to take the shot as an afterthought since we were so obliging.

Admiring Wayne Rooney for the second goal. Complacent and couldn't be bothered (as usual) for the third goal and got owned like nothing by Wayne Rooney in the end. Not fit to lace Wayne Rooney's boots.

Manchester City dropping right down to fourth later in the day will be just desserts for them losing to Burnley! For the amount of money they squander, that is simply a joke.

Too limited and simply out of his depth in the Premier League. Columbia and James Rodriguez probably made him look good and overrated after the world cup.

in fairness to clark, it was a pinpoint pass and he was beet by the length of a toe It was indeed a perfect pass. Still Clark was trying to hold off Gomis for a good number of yards and seconds but Gomis was simply too strong and could not be held off. The referees were a joke. We could easily have had a penalty.

Freaking injuries robbing us of key players and replacing them with inferior players who don't can't do anything. Still a very poor loss once again and we really need to stop losing game at the end even if we can't win! We were probably lucky to go into the half level given how many clear shots they had in the first half. Swansea could have been well ahead. Got lots to thank for Guzan and Clark for that, but unfortunately Clark was poorly beaten by Gomis for their goal.

Has the ability but needs to use it more effectively at times. When he manages that he does great as can be seen first half. Often he seems to be more interested in trying to physically win the opponent player instead of winning them via football. Like the goal we conceded, he was only interested in grappling with Lescott, perhaps to show he's the stronger player or something, and completely ignored the ball. Or a through ball that he needs to tussle with an opponent, he focuses exclusively on battling physically with the opponent alone instead of channeling his effort to get the ball instead.

For this reason I think it was actually great he did what he did. I don't get the criticism he is getting here over the stomp when he's our player. Admit it a number of players, even the big ones, have nasty streaks and won't hesitate to do such snide dirty kicks on opponents if they can gain an advantage and get away with it. It's actually part of what allows them to win at times and makes them as good as they are. We certainly need to be doing that instead of playing nice and just getting pushed over in the end. You don't get any points from being nice.

We've said before with our other defenders that the other way to look at this is that he doesn't even stick to his man / or is positionally awful. Hence the need to be making these last ditch tackles in the first place. If he's going for the ball he better jolly well be getting to it, or opponents are going to be having a man totally free.