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You should be used to the London bias by now fella, some strike though we were terrible that day as well.

Sorry couldn't help myself. It will be a close game I think much like last year.

Do you mean this game?

I hope that you don't enjoy this trip so much - in the nicest possible way of course Where you sitting, Upper, Lower or Paddock? Thanks. Although we normally find you pretty hospitable hosts fingers crossed this year is no exception. :winkold: Do you know I didn't even look when I got the tickets, just checked they were together will have to come back to you on that one.

My ticket for my annual trip to Goodison arrived in the post at the weekend and I can't wait, as previously stated one of my favourite away days.

Agreed. The policies contained in the pre-budget report could constitute the redrawing of political lines and a return to party politics rather than the ya bo popularity and spin doctor politics of recent years.

A new poll would be interesting, although would have been more so had this one not be revived prior to doing it. Go for it though Tony. What guilty 11? I'm confused.

Weren't Man City in the top half? Edit - no they weren't I think your right

Because they keep losing or drawing. :winkold: I do agree with you though, in terms of players they have some real decent ones and should I think be doing better than they are. I can see them picking up a win tonight though or at least I hope.

How on earth do you come to that conclusion? WW1, WW2, Irag invading Kwait, Japan attacking America,the Falklands, the Gulf war, just about every war you can think off could be descirbed as illegal from one perspective.

Christ, just drop it.

Tough Wigan A Spurs A Villa H City A Chelsea H Ouch. That isn't a nice run of games, even your home games are against the big boys. :winkold:

So anyway, getting back to Everton..... What are there next few fixtures like?

He is some bloody driver alright, as for who it is there have been various rumours over the years but its never been confirmed. Whoever he is he handles the cars like a master.

Brilliant.

Brilliant "you don't have enough sense to poor piss out of a boot" I love that line.

Best player or not (personally I probably agree - certainly best I've seen) I still wouldn't want to shake hands with the guy.

No. He has been quite clear, he is saying they are better supported in Liverpool you couldn't say the same about Birmingham. I'm sat in Liverpool as I type this surrounded by an office in which Everton fans out number Liverpool 2 to 1. As an indication for you on the Liverpool fan base, when Liverpool are at home it is impossible for me to find a hotel room in central Liverpool because they are all booked up by fans from Ireland and Scandanavia.

While I understand the economic reason's for Everton seeking to leave Goodison I really hope that they don't and it has nothing to do with them being our rivals. I simply feel like a lot of the soul and history of football has been lost in recent years in our game with the demolition of many of the old homes of the game. Grounds like Roker Park and The Baseball Ground while old and decrepid were symbolic of the history of our game and the communities in which the clubs grew up and Goodison is too me the same. The new grounds made of plastic with their transiant names that will change whenever a sponser moves on built on city outskirts and industrial parks simply have no soul, no history, no character and no link to the original bedrock of the clubs. I wouldn't care if they knocked down every stand at Villa Park and started again we long since demolished the bricks and mortar of our history but I would be devestated if we were to leave the ground itself. As a kid trips to Goodison were among the first I looked for when the fixtures were realised and its remained a favourite all these years later, Goodison may be old it may not be in the best of states or even areas but its a real football ground. These days real football grounds in the top flight are a rare thing and will I understand why Everton want/need to move I can't help being selfish and hoping they stay put.

I don't blame you that is extremely insulting and in no way accurate.

No, they are a nothng club. Just saying, that the two main points you've brought up don't really have anything to back them up. Other than they are an opinion of mine obviously And your entitled to opinions mate. I think what Stevo is getting at is that you have offered the opinions but not really susbstanciated them with any real reason. Your entitled to your views I think people were just looking for your reasoning behind them as others have provided reasoning as too why the see things differently.

No, they are a nothng club. That have finished above us the last two seasons. Which is why I think labelling them as overrated doesn't make sense. No-one rates them as a top 4 team, which is the only way they can really be overrated. Overachieving would make sense, but not overrated, imo. I agree it doesn't make sense, that is why I posted that and in fact they have finished above us the last 4 seasons.

No, they are a nothng club. That have finished above us the last two seasons.

Spot on Rob. Very over rated side. Perhaps because they were our closest rivals last season and the team at the start of the season at least likely to have been our closest this season. They started poorly but are still not far behind us and over the course of the season will end up in the top 6 again alongside us and the usual suspects.

Oh I don't know that is a hotly contested title that one. :winkold: