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Guy in the blue shirt we expect is his agent, the other bald lad I assume is his father. Was just looking at Vlaars twitter pics, looks like it was defo his father. http://yfrog.com/nvslgnzsj ITK

Guy in the blue shirt we expect is his agent, the other bald lad I assume is his father.

Have a look at the first one

Hopeso, just hope someone else doesnt come in, could this mean both Collins & Dunne out?

That was 4 days ago, contracted till 2014.

Ron Vlaar volunteered on the last Monday workout at Feyenoord and later moved with the selection of coach Ronald Koeman to Ermelo where the club this week's annual training camp in preparation invested. Vlaar was longer vacation because he had the Dutch national team participated in the European Championships in Poland and Ukraine If the Feyenoord is still Vlaar also next season captain of the vice-champion, but the locals know that the central defender of attention from clubs from England and Germany. Previously ignored Vlaar all the interest from Turkey and Russia. Vlaar will not just leave Feyenoord. After separating from his wife he wants to be near his two children to live. Moreover, he's happy in Rotterdam. At the same time he plays again for nearly seven seasons for Feyenoord. Vlaar is 27 years old, when he again wants to make a transfer, he must not wait too long. Intern at Feyenoord policymakers expect that interest in Vlaar will materialize, but technical director Martin van Geel is immediately obvious: he sells his captain rather not. Even though the captain is still under contract until 2014, meaning that Feyenoord next year commitment must be renewed or will be involved in transfer. Vlaar was part of the selection of the Dutch team during the European Championship three group matches lost. The defender was based player in the opening game against Denmark (0-1) and the last group match against Portugal (1-2). The Feyenoord has now nine matches (one goal) behind his name. "Vlaar Feyenoord for an important player, our captain inside and outside the field, a thoroughly professional and a pacesetter in the group," continued Van Geel in Voetbal International. "As a footballer he has yet another step taken during the European Championships because he was once based player. It seems clear that we will not respond positively if the interest Vlaar is very concrete.

Didnt Feyenoor say its common for players to come over for talks before a fee is agreed, could be a distance away yet.

Anyone know what either of their agents look like?

Definitely looks more than lads on a tour now at the very least their big time sponsors.

Even if we were it's not about the result today it is about Lambert seeing who is up to standard and who isn't, it's also about match fitness and seeing what partnerships form.. It is when you've got a 6 game accum and every other team is up 3-0 or more

Do we look like scoring at all?

Which gk rob?

Who scored it?

Just backed us to win 4-0 at 18/1

Just watched clips from youtube of that game, my god how good was our team compared to now.

completely agree. Was a great night. My god how good was Martin Laursen.

Another question will Guzan not need a new work permit since his deal ran out? Also there's no way he's played 75% of his country's A games in the last two years.

Cant understand how he was granted a work permit and now needs further clearance, obviously to do with the fact he went to Greece but surely his initial permit would have covered the length of his contract?

And those two conclusions are based on what? The gospel according to James Nursey.

I don't think it was realistic for a net spend on transfers of around 70 - 80 mill over 4 years to expect to get a club from 16h to any higher than 6th. During the three years we finished 6th we had the 8th, 6th and 6th highest wage bill. I therefore think given the amount we spent and the fact we had no higher than the sixth highest wage bill then a 6th place finish was about as much as we could expect. We certainly didn't spend enough to expect to finish above Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs and after 2009 Man City. I don't care who the manager is, and I rate Lambert very highly, but we are not going to again become a consistent top 6 side without substantial investment and again having a wage bill that reflects a club finishing in the top 6. As said previously you may get the odd season of success, you may as any club can with a little bit of luck along the way win a cup, but you will not maintain it without the right level of investment and accept that you will have to have one of the top half dozen wage bills in the country if you want to mix it amongst the top 6 season after season. What about the net spends of Everton? Newcastle? Clubs who have financial restrictions and performed very well last year, Moyes even got 4th one year, was his wage bill 4th highest in the league? Newcastle came within a whisker last year of finishing ahead of both Arsenal & Tottenham & managed to finish ahead of Chelsea & Liverpool. What was their wage budget? Now look at the other end of the spectrum, had all 3 relegated teams the lowest wage budgets and net spends in the Premiership? I'd sincerely doubt it. Had we the 16th lowest wage bill? No we didnt what we did have was a shit manager, along with the rest of the other teams that went down. (Coyle a possible exception, was unlucky with injuries.) Look at Arsenals net spend, they have spent less money on players than they have received since the Premiership. Produced some very good players, and bought some ridiculous bargains, what was RVP £3.75mil. Spending money by no means guarentees success.

Exactly, and we still have a lot of players who are not value for money when you take into account the wages they are on, Given, Dunne, Hutton, Collins, Warnock, N'Zogbia, Ireland, Gabby & even Bent.

I'm not miserable, I'm more excited about villa now than I have been in two years. I can't wait for the season to start and to see what life under Lambert will be like. I'm not saying it will happen but if it does I do strongly believe that little investment this year is unacceptable. We earn more money than the majority of teams. We've been told our kit deal and sponsorship deal are good. The premier league payouts have increased and I would assume season ticket sales have also increased since the appointment of lambert. We've had two years of piss poor investment combined with terrible managerial appointments. We've had two seasons of worrying about relegation and the clubs reputation has taken a big hit. I'm not expecting a spending spree of £60 million or more but I do believe this is the summer that Randy needs to start properly investing again. It's amazing what some people will accept just because it's not Doug making the decisions. I guess this point of view makes me a sadsack that nobody gives a toss about. :cry: Fair enough, but we have bought two players already, you're getting upset because Nursey said there wont be a big spending spree. Since when is he all knowing? Has he had the first news on KAE or ML? No. Maybe PL wants to assess the squad before he decides he has to blow £10mil on a striker.

Not everyone, just a few sadsacks nobody gives a toss about anyway. Fair point.

12 days into the transfer window and 2 signings, if Mon was still in charge our first signing would be a month away, why is everyone so miserable all the time?

No point in spending money for the sake of it, and Nursey is not Randy Lerner.