Clarry

fair enough. I can't believe he writes all his columns though. Don't all these celebs and football pundits have someone pass the copy in front of them and just say, yeah that sounds like me?

People can be so thick when it comes to socialism.

I am indifferent. It's not jeremy Clarkson up there. It's Jeremy Clarkson's scriptwriters.

You must mean the person I mentioned in my local enjoying recessions because he can scoop up even more cheaper housing... ..but not all are bad. I got a letter from my landlord at the weekend asking if I wanted to stay another year. If so, just sign the copy of the letter keeping the rent the same for another year. Even sent an SAE for me to return it!

/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ Nothing will happen. Unfortunately. Ever.

In fact, I should add, one of the CCTVs in/on my local is aimed at my front door. Somthing to do with the old lady that used to live there and help out in the pub.

I don't think I've been in one pub in London recently without CCTV.

Humans created the Cylons and look what happened there.

Cutting energy prices from 30th March. Very good. Should be nice and warm by then.

The actor Jack Davenport is the nephew of disgraced Conservative MP Jonathan Aitken (his mother is actress Maria Aitken).

I agree, to a point. Except, I'm not in fear. But articles like the one above about the harrassment laws, give me cause for concern.

Thanks for clearing that up CVB and very interesting stuff. Budget surpluses in the council I work for are not known. Ever. In fact my boss often raises 20 to 30,000 each year from research bodies for our work and is not allowed to keep it at the year end for emergencies (never on our salaries). It goes into the coffers for budget ****-ups going back to the 80s. Sounds like a complex mess and sounds like it will cause a lot of friction.

CV comes up with some interesting points, although his hatred of the public sector does seem to get a little in the way. Of course, he is speaking of Ireland's public sector wages (I think). Speaking personally, as a public sector worker who doesn't have any pension schemes, a 10% hit on my wage could be sustained, only if my rent was dropped by about 20%. And I can't see a private sector landlord wanting to do that. Of course, that's London rents for you. I agree with the comments about greed, though. And it will go full cycle again. Property prices will continue to drop, and lo and behold they will be snapped up once more by the very speculators who started the boom. The rich will get richer once more as they sell/rent to those just/barely able to afford.

And to be positive, will there be more innovation and a shift in music and entertainment?

I'm wondering how our societies will react to a bad recession. I'm sure in the 20s and 30s people were just pleased to put food on their plates and a roof over their heads. Will modern society react more brattishly at having to forgo Sky subscriptions, 2 holidays a year and a nice car?

My apologies. I have a problem with ex-pats slagging the place off. My Dad included. I know someone who worked in Oman a while back, by the way. Thought it was brilliant. And of course an easy hub to visit Africa, India etc.

Yes, In April i'm moving to the Middle East for the next five to ten years. Hopefully after that my own country will be in some sort of order and if not I'll be joining Mr Rogers in NZ. Coward. Really? Maybe wanting to have a family in a safe environment is actually sensible and not cowardice, however I'll be in London soon so feel free to PM me if you'd like to discuss this in person. Or are you another very brave internet warrior Clarry? I'm not a warrior, so any threats of violence are met with a shrug and turn the other cheek.

Yes, In April i'm moving to the Middle East for the next five to ten years. Hopefully after that my own country will be in some sort of order and if not I'll be joining Mr Rogers in NZ. Coward.

I know someone who has rented his flat out and sodded off to Thailand because he can live on the beach for a year next to nothing. But he's used to having no money, he's an actor.

I'd hand the briefcase to the BBC with Mr Allardyce/Redknapp's business card.

Off Topic. Nothing of interest in the Villa Talk bit except for match threads.

If i was a local vicar/priest I'd be seeting at all the "once a year" people.

Heskey and a goalscorer.

Read "The Nazis" by Laurence Rees. Fascinating book with a lot of insight into why the Eastern Front was so brutal - 2 sides thinking the other was subhuman.

Ah so it religious wars your into ... You bad man!