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That's my point though, Modric and Berbatov were sold far cheaper which means a smalll risk and their prices reflected their abilities at the time, well Berbatov in particular. Carroll even if he does well will never been sold for more then then that value and will probably never be worth that. This makes it even more high risk as the price doesn't come close to reflecting his current ability and they're paying for potential.

The discussion is football is a business and Carroll was not value for money. A lot of clubs in England fail to understand the concept of this when a lot of teams abroad do it with such success. Udinese in Italy are a prime example. This all stems from my point that £30mish is too much and I don't think anyone can disagree. He could prove to be that player but it is very high risk, and there are many players out there that can do a better job than Carroll. I understand the point they had to pay more as Newcastle knew they had money but we're talking about a player who has had one and a half seasons in the Premiership and before last night half of his goal tally came against us in one game. If he flops his sell on value will have significantly decreased, and even if he does well if they were to ever sell him they'd only get close to what they paid for him. There are so many world class players out there that cost less then Andy Carroll. I look at Spurs as an English team who have the right approach, they signed Modric for a huge fee but there was always the potential of gaining of profit if they were to ever sell him. I'm sure now they'd be looking at about 30m. They also had Berbatov who they signed at a realistic price and made an fortune from him. The game has evolved a lot now and I don't think players should be signed on what they can do on the pitch now, they also have to have good financial value. There are exceptions where there is a player which a team desperately needs such as Bent for us but it doesn't happen very often.

SHA, and WBA are derbies to me. Wolves I don't really mind, any Wolves fan I've met has been alright. As for Coventry, they seem to hate us but I couldn't care less about them.

I have to admit, that was a brilliant header.

I was pretty much gonna say what villa4europe said. It's all about value for money and imo Carroll doesn't offer that. Also agree that Suarez is better and Bent is just as valuable. Half of his goal tally this season came against us. He was what they needed though, a big target man striker and they better hope he doesn't turn into a massive flop. Funnily enough I think Dzeko is twice the player yet has shown very little so far for City.

Come-on he cost over £30m, that is a big price tag to live up to. One goal won't change that, I'm not denying he's a quality player but you pay the amount Liverpool did for world class players.

Agreed

I hope Leverkusen win it but when Kuba scores a goal like he did for Dortmund last minute, it makes you think that it is their year.

Fantastic signing by Liverpool. Carroll was a waste of money for the price, but more signings like Enrique and Suarez and they'll be challenging again

He's a good player, you can tell he has quality and he has shown it throughout his career. The problem is like any player coming from a foriegn league he needs time to adjust and it's going to be twice as difficult playing in a 4-4-2. Due to strong pressing from Newcastle midfield he felt he had to release the ball a lot quicker when he reality at times he could have took an extra touch. Also whenever making a tackle he didn't seem strong enough, something which will be worked on. His actual accuracy of the tackling is quite good but there is never any weight behind it. Any time we have 4-5-1 for the rest of the season I think he can be used, but in a 4-4-2 system he will just be a passenger at the moment. I loved his pass for Bents offside goal though, he was doing that all the time in France. We will see the best of Jean II next season

Wahey, someone knows what he is talking about!

Brilliant film. Visually everything is so detailed and important to a scene. The story is very emotional, yet humorous at the same time. I think more people need to see the film to understand people like Max in particular and Mary. 9/10

I prefer second Godfather purely because of De Niro.

Hard to judge MOTM personally. Forrester and Albrighton had very good first halves but were very quiet in the second. Gardner on the other hand was consistently good in both. Salifou and Herd also had decent games. Thought Baker was a bit shakey at CB, got turned very easily, especially for their goal. As DVIN says, Bradley was quiet, looked a bit off pace to me but was tidy in possession.

Finished 3-1... Yeah he was the left sided striker, with Albrighton alongside him. Both of them worked the channels with Gardner sitting behind trying to exploit the space.

3-0 Gardner, looping header. Brilliant team goal, made it look so easy.

Forrester now wins a pen Gardner steps up and scores.

Albrighton! Great cross by Forrester, what a game he's having.

Great link up play by Forrester and Gardner there! Probably should have scored by Forrester is looking like a real player tonight, excellent work rate and some quality on the ball.

Good ball by Forrester there, shame Gardner halted his run, if he never he probably could have made connection.

It wasn't the transfer fees that crippled them it was the wages. Hello John Utaka Amazingly defensive of Mr Redknapp, why should we judge our opinion of him as to what he is like as a person if you spend time with him. We won't get the chance. Therefore we have every right to base our opinions on what we see and hear. The guy has been a prat at Villa Park, a prat in the media and I barely know anyone who likes him. Everything is just so co-incidental with Redknapp, it's not as if the media are out to get him either ...

What a load of bollocks. * Corrupt: what has he ever been found guilty of? Answer - nothing. But I'm sure you "just know" he's corrupt, in the same way that some other football fans "just know" that Wenger is a paedophile. * A liar: what has he lied about (apart from maybe feigning denial of interest in signing a player that he later has signed)? Answer - nothing. * Completely egotistical: this conclusion is based on what, exactly? * Disloyal: do you mean unlike O'Neill, who walked out on Villa just days before the season began? * Club destroyer: Yep, the heart and soul of Spurs is being wrecked by the prospect of playing against Real Madrid in the CL QFs, no question about it. How did we ever let Harry drag us down this far? I will make two points... Disloyal= Portsmouth and Southampton, not sure why O'Neill has any relevance to this? Club destroyer= Bournemouth, Southampton and Portsmouth. All got into financial difficulty after 'Arry. Or is it some massive coincedence

Clark, Albrighton and Bradley all playing tonight.

Braindead. Brilliant! One of the funniest films I've ever watched.

I've said Downing all along. I just think Johnson is overrated, he has moments of top quality but as the OP says he doesn't offer enough, well consistently that is. Not that I think Johnson is a bad player just that I think Downing is better and was better then him at his age.