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I think we did play Columbus Crew a couple of seasons ago didn't we in our last tour? That's fair enough re the Browns fans not really wanting to link up in that sorta way, you can't force Football onto anyone. I have been interested in American Football for a little while, just don't really understand it. Haha. (and by interested I mean I have watched a couple of Superbowl's and the games that are played in London- all whilst wondering what the actual **** is going on) I don't understand why Al was so instrumental in the move from Cleveland to Baltimore - surely that was more Modell at the time? It's funny how then after all of that Al Lerner then went ahead and brought the Browns of the NFL for a record amount? Do you recon he influenced Modell somehow to move on so he could create a 'New Browns' but it didn't really pay off as they have struggled to win? I don't recall Villa playing the Crew recently, but I may have missed it...when was Villa's last US tour? As to Lerner's involvement in the move, he was a minority partner with Modell at the time and the deal to relocate to Baltimore was actually struck on Lerner's private jet. Did he do it with the forethought of stepping in as the new owner? I don't think anyone could know, but it seems logical. Keep in mind, though , that there were several potential ownership groups bidding for the Browns, so there was always the possibility of Lerner not getting the team. It's hard to imagine it given the struggles of the team the last 13 years, and the drop from relevance (under Randy's watch, one has to say), but the Browns remain a very valuable property. Deep down the league wants a winner in Cleveland to renew the storied Steelers/Browns rivalry (although Baltimore has certainly supplanted Cleveland in this), and awake the sleeping giant. Plus, the continued fan support, despite over a decade of futility has demonstrated that we're not going away. (It's a sickness, I know). I think the new owner, having been a minority investor in the Steelers, has a strong sense of the potential value of a winning team in Cleveland. So the browns did totally start up again when Al brought the team in 98? How did they recruit playing staff in that first season? Im just trying to understand I guess why I see some fans saying it has been 13 years since we have won anything (browns fans) but from the sounds of it you started as a brand new time only just before the turn of the new millennium and yet still be worth $1billion. Sure that still includes your history/achievements etc but... That's an incredible figure? A link would have been awesome for the fans and would have wanted to go across to do that. How do you think the managers we sent over would have got on or if any of our players went over, what do you think the reaction would have been like?

Is he the dude who has a long throw?

Before we go back to speculations...... who is this? I would also be interested in knowing this information. allison stokke lads I would love to replicate the scene in my avatar with her without the banana of course. Shillz I'm assuming you was referring to her age whilst sporting that Newport top? How old there?

Before we go back to speculations...... who is this? I would also be interested in knowing this information.

I think we did play Columbus Crew a couple of seasons ago didn't we in our last tour? That's fair enough re the Browns fans not really wanting to link up in that sorta way, you can't force Football onto anyone. I have been interested in American Football for a little while, just don't really understand it. Haha. (and by interested I mean I have watched a couple of Superbowl's and the games that are played in London- all whilst wondering what the actual **** is going on) I don't understand why Al was so instrumental in the move from Cleveland to Baltimore - surely that was more Modell at the time? It's funny how then after all of that Al Lerner then went ahead and brought the Browns of the NFL for a record amount? Do you recon he influenced Modell somehow to move on so he could create a 'New Browns' but it didn't really pay off as they have struggled to win?

What's happaned at Malaga I havnt been following their situation?

This situation is strange though, cuz when Lerner sells the Browns we will lose that connection with the fans from across the pond. From the sounds of what I have read in some of the forums (and by the sounds of what Cerberus has said, not the best ones) that wouldnt matter to the Browns fans anyway. I'm a little disappointed about it though. I was hoping there might be a thing where Browns fans can come over here and watch a game, and likewise Villa fans head on over to Cleveland to take in an NFL game. That was my dream. Haha. Cerberus when the deal to sell the Browns goes through will they still keep the street name in honour of Alfred Lerner do you recon?

^^ Hah!! Interesting post Copey11 thanks for sharing. What I do not understand is why are Browns fans so pissed off with us in all of this? Its not as if we are currently high flying and winning trophies left right and center is it. Is it really a case of Randy having purchased Villa himself and so cares more as PF has suggested in recent comments he made?

Haha... Check out the music video and the response video from Browns forum about Mr Lerner. Quite funny. Can't believe it is already pretty much a done deal at a $Billion Browns Forum

Fair enough. Ta. Delfouneso out on loan then? Or sold? Who do we recon this striker might be? all very exciting isn't it? .......anybody else thinking some of the Danish women's handball players look a little bit fit?

What was said about us getting a new striker in??

Who said what about a possible striker purchase? Sturridge would be pretty sexual if we brought him in to join a strike force of Bent, Gabby and Weimann. Delfouneso needs to get out on loan and really prove himself or be sold next season. I hope he can prove himself.

Well done Richard for getting it right - though would you agree this one was down to luck over anything else? Let's be fair, there was nothing happening last week and we have been able to turn it around today after the tour. Now...., I would also like some praise - I announced 2/3 weeks ago that the next signing we make will have a vowel, closely followed by a consonant in their name... Sooooooo. Yea!!! Get in!

I think we should partner up with the Fire. By all accounts it sounds as though everybody had a right good time in Chicago. what would such a partnership mean though for both sides do you recon?

Gosh people are Westminster Crabby today! It's the Olympics for crying out loud! Calm down... Everyone should be happy Hope we sign this guy - I think everyone can see Warnock is ready to continue with his Mentor training of new LBs for club and country.

It is SO obviously not Heskey it is untrue! Lambert never managed Heskey, Jewel has managed him so why on earth would he ask Lambert about him? Besides the article quotes Jewel saying that it is a player Lambert formerly managed!!! Anyway why are people even talking about this? Who cares who Ipswich are interested in??? He's talking to him to get the low down of his situation and stuff! Read this paragraph again and point out where it says it is a player Lambert used to manged for me.... PJ -"Chris spoke to Paul Lambert on Tuesday to ask about a player who used to play for a club that I used to manage and he never mentioned Aaron Cresswell, which I found strange," he said. ....but I agree who cares what's happening with him.

It's obviously Heskey. Jewell managed Wigan, Heskey played for Wigan... Paul Lambert would have met him at Villa or knew of his situation at least...Heskey is now free and they probs wanted confirmation, or an idea how much he was earning etc etc...perhaps after a reference from one of the other coaches...

I could be wrong here but hasnt everything you said will happen failed to come to fruition? If not, I want evidence! MM is this signing happening do you think?? (please hear my cries for solid info :cry: )

Has to be 4-1-2-1-2 ----------------------Guzan---------------------- ----Lowton-----Dunne-----Clark-----Cresswell/Warnock --------------------El Ahmadi--------------------- ----Holman-------------------------N'Zogbia----- ---------------------Ireland------------------------ ------------Bent-----------Agbonlahor------------ I think everyone will get behind the ball when we havnt got it and try to get it back as quick as poss. We then have width once we have it back and Ireland can play in a creative role. deffo need two strikers on the pitch!

It is a little frustrating that we have managed to piss Feyenoord off with this, but we do not know the ins and outs. All we know so far is that Vlaar was at Villa park with his agent. Pl and them met that once and we have yet to put on a bid for the player. Pl must have wanted to see how our current guys got on in the states before deciding on whether or not a new CB was needed. He will hopefully return this week and then make his decision. I also personally think that this would have been communicated to Vlaar and his agent before hand and they are the ones whinging un-necessarily. We will see what happens, but truth is - nobody on here knows anything. That much is obvious.

Trees never claimed to be ITK. He knew Randy's movements due to his job but that was it. He never claimed to be ITK no, but he was 'in the know' none the less. He was still bullied off the site.

Thanks again Tony I enjoy reading about peoples travels an look to capture some bits so that I can slot it onto my own plans. Have checked out the website and looked at the itinerary, looks really interesting so will have a proper look tonight when I get home and some more into the various towns/cities etc. I will no doubt have more questions for ya so of I could keep firing them at you as and when that would be cool

This whole thing just goes to show that nobody is ITK, and those that were (MM, Gazton, thetrees) were wrongly attacked for sharing what they knew. Takes the piss. The whole 'Welcome' thing has become a bit of a joke and it needs to stop. The named people above are the only ones with any credibility here.

Richard... Howcome 'welcome' was called by yourself when it seems that actually, it is no where near done? Or was it a guess? No dig, just interested in knowing why you called it a few days ago?

Enter Vlaar....Problem solved for the aerial threat. Guys just think - with our other realistic targets - Walcott and Welbeck... With Messi we could be one hell of a team?