Rodders Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 we will finish ahead of boro pompey wba sunderland and bloose of that I am sure. After that maybe newcastle fulham and charlton, but no higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wif Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 To be honest I'd put it at 1 in 3. Here's why. Sunderland are down. I really don't think that either of the other two places are certain yet. Portsmouth with their new team will be giving it a go and I can just see sha getting out of it. The other four teams are WBA, Us, Middlesvilla and Newcastle. 2 places, 6 teams. 2 in 6 or 1 in 3. You pessimistic lot should get down the bookies and start putting your savings on the 16/1 or so that you can get. Look at our home games after tonight - we've still got to play Blues, Albion, Sunderland, Fulham, Portsmouth, Man City & Newcastle. It's hard to imagine an easier run in than those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrobo1 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 there is no chance of us going down and I would be willing to bet a tenner to three people on it with the winnings going to VT. PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrobo1 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 and actually that is why we can't sell the club because there is no rush and potential buyers are willing to wait until Ellis dies or lowers his price, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheVillan Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 OK guys........ Spoke with a carpark attendant on the massive carpark behind the Aston Villa Social Club last night. Asked him why there was just the two very narrow exits from the carpark as it takes ages and ages and zzzzzzzz ages to get off that friggin carpark. He said that no work had been done to improve the carpark as the Cormers wanted it but couldn't buy it as it was owned by AVFC, BCFC and a n other ... also said the B'ham council was run by SHA tosspots which was slowing the deal down. Anyways -- he said the takeover WAS happening, but assured me that the land tied to the deal was making the deal longer to close than it should. I drove away feeling better...then I woke up -- was this a reliable source of information ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Its a well known fact that a car park attendant has a seat on the board, and is present during all takeover negotiations! :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Its a well known fact that a car park attendant has a seat on the board, and is present during all takeover negotiations! :winkold: Well Doug does just about everything else; CEO, Chairman, Financial Director, Business Mastermind............... why not Car Park Attendant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 and actually that is why we can't sell the club because there is no rush and potential buyers are willing to wait until Ellis dies or lowers his price, Sorry for being thick, but "what" is why we can't sell the club? We can't sell the club because the owner has no interest in selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 and actually that is why we can't sell the club because there is no rush and potential buyers are willing to wait until Ellis dies or lowers his price, Sorry for being thick, but "what" is why we can't sell the club? We can't sell the club because the owner has no interest in selling. Doug will sell, I think, but only on his (very unrealistic) terms. When Doug is out of the picture the club will be appropriately priced and be snapped up. As I've posted before, I think the Rothschilds appointment was to do with this. i.e. removing Doug from the process so a realistic price can be agreed with potential buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Doug will sell, I think, but only on his (very unrealistic) terms. ie he won't sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Doug will sell, I think, but only on his (very unrealistic) terms. ie he won't sell. I honestly don't think Dougs opinion matters anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 So, is the takeover off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David-Copenhagen Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Stalled it seams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrobo1 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 a very interesting article from Martin Swain, some I disagree with but the overall tenure is about right but unlike his last article he is not clainming any inside sources anymore and I just wonder why the leaks have dried up since Rothschilds were brought in. Sad Villa's Garland of thorns By Martin Swain Feb 3, 2006 At first sight they may seem unconnected but the jailing of a fraudster at York Crown Court last week adds more gloom to Villa fans desperate for their club to take a new direction. For months they have been teased and tantalised by the prospect of a takeover which, it was hoped, could re-energise a club decaying before our eyes. Now the jailing of Chris Garland for two and a half years must throw fresh doubt on the prospects of veteran chairman Doug Ellis completing the supposed £64m takeover by the Irish property developers Luke and Brian Comer. Garland was part of the team of brokers who brought the £64m offer to Ellis's table. He is, however, a serial fantasist once paid £2,000 a week as a consultant by Leeds over a deal which - surprise, surprise - never materialised. As the Yorkshire club battled to avoid financial oblivion in 2004, £30m in debt and in urgent need of fresh investment, Garland seemed to have the answer to the board's prayers with a (supposed) £25m takeover deal. This one was (supposedly) being backed by Sebastien Sainsbury, great-grandson of the founder of the Sainsbury's supermarket chain. Of course, nothing ever materialised and Garland's world of phoney deals and make-believe schemes came to a halt when he was put away last week for duping his next door neighbours out of £164,000. "We believed him because we thought he was a genuine guy," the unfortunate neighbour Brian Manley said after being deprived of his life savings. "Chairmen of football clubs believe him. When it comes to conmen he is pretty much up there - he is an artist." Garland's role in the AVIL consortium, who still claim to be optimistic of bringing in the Comers as new owners, has been described as peripheral. But then it has also been said that they were due to complete their takeover in October, then at Christmas, then in the New Year. We are now into February recoiling from a Villa statement which suggests AVIL have done little more than enjoyed a cosy chat and cuppa with Doug. "To date the board is not aware that AVIL has performed detailed due diligence on Aston Villa and has not been provided with evidence of AVIL's financial ability to proceed with an acquisition," said the recent statement. Note that point about the absence of detailed due diligence, the process of examining the books of the company you intend to buy. If they haven't been doing that since October, what on earth have they been doing? Villa's sale is now in the hands of the blue chip financiers Rothschild with the latest claims being that they, too, are in discussion with the AVIL consortium. We wish them well but events so far cannot make Villa fans confident of an outcome as they continue to fret over the club's decline under an 82-year-old chairman who has accepted that the time has come for new ownership. With a training ground development to fund and the team under-performing in front of declining attendances, Ellis may have held on to his pride and joy a year or two too long to get top dollar for his shares. And watching from afar, I wonder what Ray Ranson, an owner waiting for a club to fuel his ambitions, makes of it all? His £47m offer bid remains the only concrete offer Ellis has received but it was dismissed out of hand as being insubstantial. When the AVIL "deal" came in at £64m, it seemed a good call by the chairman but one wonders if he now regrets being quite so dismissive of the Ranson offer?[\i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfcinwales Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 says nothing not even decent supposition just paper fodder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahamaad Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Garland's role in the AVIL consortium, who still claim to be optimistic of bringing in the Comers as new owners, has been described as peripheral. I don't think he is anything more than a red herring TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyShears Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 So the takeover was being part managed by a serial fantasist fraudster who assisted the downfall of leeds and is now in prison. This is a joke right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwheels Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Nothing that hasn't been in Private Eye over the last few weeks. You do all read that, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 says nothing not even decent supposition just paper fodder Nope, nothing new in there. Don't suppose there was meant to be - the headline wasn't "EXCLUSIVE VILLA FRAUD SHOCK", it is a commentary, one person's view of the situation. And a reasonably accurate precis of the current situation it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrobo1 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 except two weeks ago, swain's musings were seen as a death knell to the bid and know he writes a piece with no indisder stuff and nothing about AVIL walking away ... as I say it has gone quiet, is that a positive ssign ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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