jimmygreaves Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 What if the Comers pull out, nobody comes in and Doug who still owns us says 'Not for sale anymore'? I take it this Rothschilds are like an estate agents? You can always tell an estate agents that you don't want to sell anymore. I would imagine that Rothschilds would demand a fee for their services up to that point. Their fee would usually come as a percentage of the sale but if Doug were to pull the plug he would have to dip into the coffers and cough up a considerable amount..... and we all know he doesn't like wasting money, and in this case it would be money for nothing. Would I be right in thinking this? Anyway, along with a few others, I feel Doug may have been removed from the loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahamaad Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 What is the risk to Doug? He could change his mind and back down? I am still viewing this from a negative viewpoint. Rothschilds best interest is to serve the interests of their client, ie Doug, while making money out of the sale. No sale and no money. But for Ellis this is a 'put up or shut up' statement. I doubt he is the sort of person to back down on a price as we have witnessed over the years with transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 No sale and no money. I doubt this would be the case with Rothchilds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrobo1 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I agree with JG on this one Ali, I totally understand your secptism but why would Ellis issue the statement which everyone agrees is a for sale sign and thus allow massive speculation on his future, that is most certainly NOT the Ellis way. I have said time and time again that Ellis has not denied for a year now that he would not sell, there has been no rebust NO's no drag me out in a box comments. this is yet further confirmaation of this and whilst it may take some more time the message is clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahamaad Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Can we expect a cash windfall and new management at boardroom level in the summer? Is the future bright for Aston Villa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrobo1 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 well usuaally intially at a takeover you would see new investment but maybe they are waiting for me to win next weeks £100m euro lottery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I think you'll find it's my £100m euro lottery win! I agree with others that say it's the end zone for Ellis. To go public with a statement that says the club are activiely seeking a new owner, paying one of the biggest Merchant Banks in the world to sort this out, mixed with Ellis' reputation throughout the game for wanting to have his say in ALL things at the club yet relinquishing his total say in this search for a new buyer says that this time he really does know that his time, especailly at the club, is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David-Copenhagen Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Just a thought though, can it be Petchey who has forced £lies hand? Has he got fed up of waiting to cash in on his investment and has now started to apply what pressure he can? I think there could very much be something is this. Doug has ruled on the gace of others, but this is becoming more and more clear that his time are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted January 21, 2006 Moderator Share Posted January 21, 2006 I'm fairly certain it was Rothschild who helped facilitate the Emirates/Arsenal deal for Ashburton Grove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 It was NV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahamaad Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Oh please let them do it for us. I wouldn't mind VP being called the 'Guiness Dome' as long as they gave us millions for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 but if Doug were to pull the plug he would have to dip into the coffers and cough up a considerable amount..... and we all know he doesn't like wasting money, and in this case it would be money for nothing Not his money though Jim it would be the clubs money. Was that also how we financed paying NTL to buy their share holding back? If so, who holds and votes these shares now? I'm more than a little concerned that if the consortium does not give him what he wants he will string this out for a reasonable period to show there is no alternative to him (as his inflated asking price at least) and then pay Rothschild off with next season's transfer budget. Come on Mr Neville let's be hearing from you in the press on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Was that also how we financed paying NTL to buy their share holding back? If so, who holds and votes these shares now? I think it was 'share options' they had...... meaning NEW shares would have been created thus diluting Dougs percentage ownership, hence the club buying them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Thanks Denis. So the club bought the share options back and by doing so maintained the status quo (a reference to that band's music more than to our board's use of club money). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 But they did 'con' NTL out of millions first though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrobo1 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 yes NTL certainly lost a lot from us, Newcastle and a couple others, it was a simple deal to make but was the money used wisely ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 21, 2006 Moderator Share Posted January 21, 2006 it was a bizzare plan by NTL in the first place though, company was run by a bunch of idiots whoever dreamed up " I know lets buy 9.9% in lots of PL footballclubs and we'll control the TV rights" should really have been shot And now they are owned by Teleworst *mindboggled* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrobo1 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 no it's the other way round funnily enough, I have no problem with Blueyonder but I worry when NTL gets their hands on my service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_av Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 no it's the other way round funnily enough, I have no problem with Blueyonder but I worry when NTL gets their hands on my service They might put a cap on your porn downloads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiDuCo Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 The Sunday Mirror "Premiership club Aston Villa are the subject of a takeover bid from Norwegian businessman Peter Vidmar" Up> the> villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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