The Transfer Window

[Grant(aka_eddy)]

I suspect i know which way this'll go after that window. But i wonder just how much it is hated or whether anyone can find justification for it.*

*Justification does not, and never has, include being in line with the rest of Europe.

[OldFart]

Yes. Sorry, I might be a bit dense but I can't get my head round that bit about justification. All members of UEFA must operate a transfer window, so do you mean "there is no justification for UEFA having one?"

[rjw63]

**** Europe

[OldFart]

**** Europe

Fine, but if we unilaterally go against UEFA we don't play in European competition.

[ianrobo1]

I like it

it challenges all managers to get it right and does not allow for those with money to cherry pick throughout the season

You should build the squad inthe summer and then use the winter for problems with injuries etc.

I would also say no manager should be allowed to be sacked during the season, allow for stability

[Grant(aka_eddy)]

**** Europe

Fine, but if we unilaterally go against UEFA we don't play in European competition.

Was it imposed upon the FA they had to have this to play in European competition then? If so i missed that.

For quite a while we operated in different windows and off the top of my head i can't see any problems that it caused.

Even if it did, it shouldnt necessarily mean us changing to an inferior system. If of course you feel like i do that it is in fact, an inferior system.

[ianrobo1]

the reason for the window was a deal with Europe to stop the scrapping transfers all together

Europe stated transfers were against free movement of labour BUT this was meant as a compromise

am I not true in saying most other coutries had one

[Grant(aka_eddy)]

I like it

it challenges all managers to get it right and does not allow for those with money to cherry pick throughout the season

That's a good point Ian and one that is often used to justify it. However it is an ideal and not a reality. The reality is that the successful English clubs are limited to just a couple and have been so much richer and more successful than the others that they can afford to build very large high quality squads anyway. This negates the intended benefit and actually ends up punishing the teams who cannot afford to match them, widening the gap further.

I would also say no manager should be allowed to be sacked during the season, allow for stability

I quite like that idea, though it may well be unworkable.

[OutByEaster?]

I really like the damned thing. Genuinely. I like the drama of it.

[Grant(aka_eddy)]

the reason for the window was a deal with Europe to stop the scrapping transfers all together

Europe stated transfers were against free movement of labour BUT this was meant as a compromise

am I not true in saying most other coutries had one

Surely Europe would have been better adopting our system then? :?

We only had a period between April and June when players couldnt move.

[ianrobo1]

Grant I can;t remember the justification but allowing transfers 9 months a season was worse that 4

a bit topsy turvey I know ...

[Gringo]

It's a f***** stupid idea, and removes the ability of mangers to manage.

[ianrobo1]

disagree Gringo I think it increases their ability as they have to decide on a squad in the close season and work with it.

in a way that is why I think we have benefited under MON we have the stability knowing someone else won;t be brought in at the slight loss of form.

[bickster]

My answer is twofold

In theory, yes the transfer window protects the small big club balance to some degree

In practice as a mod on this site, jesuz no, life would be so much simpler without transfer windows

[ianrobo1]

would it Bicks, we would have transfr rumours all seaosn like the old days, it would never stop

now we canforget all about it until July as the European champiosnhips take the stage

[drat01]

Can we also get rid of loans?

[bickster]

Can we also get rid of loans?

No absolutely not (but its a different topic entirely - maybe start a new one for it)

[Grant(aka_eddy)]

Can we also get rid of loans?

No absolutely not (but its a different topic entirely - maybe start a new one for it)

Typical bloody mod, tells you not to go off topic but makes sure he gets his opinion in anyway!

[Gringo]

disagree Gringo I think it increases their ability as they have to decide on a squad in the close season and work with it.

No. then they are not managers they are coaches. It reduces the ability for a manger to manage changes in his team. For example, if the transfer window had been around 15 years ago, fergie couldn't have signed cantona, and bfr would leading us to our 12 the title in 15 years. Damn, an argument for the window.

[ianrobo1]

that is one of them for sure