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Has there ever been a government who have got absolutely nothing right Labour have done some good things, peace in Northern Ireland being one but they have done some things badly too. By the way how is the price of Bullion these days. What will cost Labour is Gordon Brown and the desire for change.

Drove through Colley Gate near Lye, this morning and was quite suprised that the BNP had a little stall set up to canvas for vote. The stall was on the car park of an Indian Restaurant (now theres irony)

Up early maybe, not sure I was on the ball.....

and that sums it up perfectly. A perfect Tory response I may say. The stereo Type is there for all to see At least Tony will debate - sometimes with a rabid right wing hat. :wink: (The loony left > rabid right) The trouble with forums is its hard to tell if posts are meant to be ironic or just come out that way

is this real world or VT world we are talking ? VT has a 50% + Lib Dem support rate so I'd hardly call it unbiased I gave me honest assessment on page 2 .. I had Brown down as the winner for a long period so it's a tad unfair to just bracket people as biased or unbiased ... On immigration I just don't happen to agree with Clegg he to coin a phrase needs to "Get Real" .. i don't think he was strong on defence either .... Hence why he didn't win last night in my "biased" opinion It certainly aint VT World. I dont even need to come on and read this thread to find how some people saw the debate last night.

So Labours Supporters think Brown won Tory supporters think Cameron won Unbiased opinion seems to be Clegg won.... Interesting that Brown went on a bit of a Clegg offensive,

Interesting to have a play with the Election Seat Calculator. Libdems on the Yougov Poll results have 33% of the vote compared to Labours 26% and yet would have only 134 seats compared to Labours 241. PR will make one hell of a difference to the political landscape and if it is the No1 issue that either of the 2 main parties must agree to to form a coaltion government it will make the Libdems the King makers at pretty much every election from hereon. Is that a good thing?

Throw Ins: Do you remember when we used to look for an unmarked player infield who would then look to build an attack rather than our usual lets have 3 players down the line who might get a flick on which might go to one of our players but might not. Remember when our strikers used to make a run towards the near post to try and get in front of the defender rather than just run towards the penalty spot whether there is a space there or not. Remember when we used to make tactical substitutions before the 70 minute mark? Statistics are a wonderful thing. We may well end up with more points than last season, more away wins than any other premiership team, we may end up with the best defence. Why then after watching the match tonight do I feel in such a bad mood. I will back MON for another season if we finish with a points tally higher than previous years total. I will live in hope that he will try different formations, different tactics, rest players occasionally, give some players a fair chance and buy a decent striker and a little bit of creativity for the midfield. However I will be surprised if he does.

A very hard earned 3 points against a team who has been relegated, through to the FA Cup final and struggled to put out a team with a full compliment of players on the bench. The crossing from both wings is at best erratic and no real plan b it seems. Yet again Martin waits until 70 minutes for the customary Heskey for Carew when he could have tried something a bit different 10 mins earlier as we seemed to be going nowhere. If we can win the next 2 games then I think MON will be backed by the majority of fans me amongst them but after watching that I really wouldnt be too upset if he decided he had had enough.

My guess is we would like it but not a lot.

Since LibDems are bound to want Proportional Representation brought in as a condition of joining either party for a coalition government who do you think will be the first to crumble Labour or Conservatives

Men Who Stare at Goats. Looked iffy but thought I would give it a go. Has some really funny bits in it. Much better film than I expected really.

The Tory party Mike. The Lib Dems have more to gain in seats that are typical Tory targets As you will see on here there are some for who the Tory party message however its glossed up and marketed will show that they have not changed from the days of Thatcher. If they have become disillusioned by Lab often they have moved to a Lib Dem vote. The lib Dems will attack the Tory party typically in "affluent" constituencies and could well win more of the vote. Tactical voting under this shit system that we have in the UK will be a factor again - basically keep out the Tory party and the return of the witches policy If you are right where are the disaffected Labour voters going to turn? Radio WM did something when LDV shut and it was amazing how many of the ones interviewed were considering voting BNP. What would that tell people if they finished 4th at the election.

Wonder which party this morning is more worried about the LibDems doing much much better at the ballot boxes if Clegg continues to impress in the next 2 televised debates.

Could prove very useful if Gordy returns to power

I suspect Labour and their supporters to start attacking the LibDems at their earliest opportunity after tonite

This pretty much sums it up Richard. If your a Red then the Tories are scum and do terrible things which are offensive, when pointed out that their very own party behave in exactly the same way then we ignore it or point out more wrong doings by the Tories. If your a Blue then Labour are scum and do terrible things which are offensive, when pointed out that their very own party behave in exactly the same way then we ignore it or point out more wrong doings by Labour. The very same people can go to the match last night and then post that they think Everton played well and were well organised, but wouldnt even consider watching the televised debate tonight and then post how well the other leaders did - they are so biased their own sense of common decency would prevent it. Meanwhile the rest of us feel even further disenfranchised by the main parties and look in vain for someone to support.

Is it a new tory competition?

Three pages I have read and I now remember why I dont drop in very often. I will pop in tomorrow to posters extremely balanced and not at all biased reviews on tonights debate.

The fact is that he got the ball. There isn't a percentage of 'how much' that he has to satisfy before it's a penalty. It was a terrible decision by the ref. Whyohwhy couldnt he have been in charge for our game yesterday.

Whats the point in having players on the bench. When does MON ever make an unusal substitution. We can pretty much call them beofre the game has kicked off. Ancelotti used his subs and the only one MON made was **** Heskey and that was with 10 mins or so to go. I have seen some decent managers down VP and some god awful ones too but I would struggle to think of any manager we have had who is worse at substitutions to try and change a game than MON.

So he does tire in games but not as much aspeople make out. I read some stats on here tonight that some posted that point out we have conceeded more goals in the last 10 minutes than we have scored - I think it was 5, where pretty much throughtout the rest of the 90 minutes we have scored more than we have conceeded. Now not saying this is purely down to Petrov as its not but surely that stat tells you something. It should tell MON something. I thought Petrov had another decent game andcame out of the game with credit, however in the last 10 mins Chelsea players were running past him and leaving him for dead because he had given his all.

**** nonsense. You complain that anything that he does which isn't perfect is due to 'tiredness'. You are specifically looking for him to do something wrong in the last 30 minutes of a game so you can repeat the 'Petrov tires' stuff. You say that he was 'excellent for 70-75 mintues' today. How would you have reacted to any other player being substituted by O'Neill after playing excellently for 70/75 minutes? You'd have panned him, wouldn't you? Snowy are you saying you dont think that Petrov tires on is dead on his feet after 70 mins

Drat I see you have upset Davey C and he has got it in for you with his freeze on IT spending for government. Completely disagree that that is the right thing to do but if you promise big big savings.............

Not a lot of people knew that